Red Mosquito

so far my choices would be

Brain of J
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Faithfull
- Jones Beach 2000-08-23

I've always liked that San Diego 2000 version of Pilate. Solid show all around too.

doone wrote:

ridleybradout wrote:

rimb wrote:

ridleybradout wrote:

rimb wrote: Yeah, definitely in favour of linking them - it's how they're presented live most of the time (all of the time for Untitled).

Not quite true actually

Sorry - barely listened to a bootleg post-2006

A perfectly reasonable year to draw the line


Have a listen to Pilate from San Diego 2000 guys.

this is good

yeah this is very good

ridleybradout wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote: Also, if you can use L2L Untitled into Melbourne 98 MFC that would be best.

Now that might be difficult.

I'm not sure about the Melb 98 MFC - sure it's got Jack, but Ed mangles the first word and Stone's effects in the intro are a bit annoying...

Anyone else besides Chud think this should be chosen over the almighty Camden 2000-09-01 version?

fine

ridleybradout wrote:

mray10 wrote:I like that Low Light from Halifax, but have no issue with the Benaroya version either. Big no on the Wrigley version, though.

Halifax is pretty great, though Jeff's voice is a bit too loud for my liking.

Benaroya feels a bit slow and flat to me - not sure.

Columbia 2016-04-21 is actually really good - pretty much flawless musically and vocally, no "fucking calm", and a quieter Jeff

Actually, Bern 2006-09-13 might be the happy medium between earlier and later versions.

I like that Bern version. Eddie's got a nice gentle quality to his voice.

No Way
- Seattle 2009-09-22
or
2014-10-20 Milwaukee



Given To Fly
- Los Angeles (LO2L) 1998-07-14

What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?

doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee

Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery .

cutuphalfdead wrote:What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?

Not bad. I think it's between this and Bern 06.

ridleybradout wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?

Not bad. I think it's between this and Bern 06.

Well I vote for this.

Matt's a little too obnoxious at points in the Bern version, and Ed gets a bit over extended with those vowels.

we-hind, ruh-holes bye

doone wrote:No Way
- Seattle 2009-09-22

I'm not sure why Adelaide 2009-11-17 was missing from the shortlist but I think it might be better than Seattle - the outro in particular is

Edit: Ed speaks over the intro which isn't ideal...

What do you guys think of 'Faithfull' from Melbourne 1998-03-05?

Solid version methinks. So far Brain of J is the only representation of Jack on this disc, so would be nice to have another...

ridleybradout wrote:What do you guys think of 'Faithfull' from Melbourne 1998-03-05?

Solid version methinks. So far Brain of J is the only representation of Jack on this disc, so would be nice to have another...

This must be addressed!

Faithfull from Melbourne certainly a good place to start.

ridleybradout wrote:What do you guys think of 'Faithfull' from Melbourne 1998-03-05?

Solid version methinks. So far Brain of J is the only representation of Jack on this disc, so would be nice to have another...

For me Faithful needs to be a Jack version, the kick drum rhythm is so distinctive and Matt never replicated it well, or the general feel of the song. In general they played it so well early in the tour and it lost its live awesomeness as time went on. the Melbourne version is solid and I'd prefer this if the choice was between this or a later version.

In terms of 'Untitled', if the intent is to represent the definitive live version of "MFC" - then if it being preceded by untitled makes it the definitive version of MFC then perhaps it should be included. If we are including it because the two songs simply go together, and we are linking different performances then I don't support that.

ridleybradout wrote:The Melb 1998 version of Wishlist has a number of lyric changes (e.g. ref to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan), but the DC 1998-09-19 version is quite good

I've been auditioning versions of Wishlist and I really do prefer the way Jack plays this song.

There are only two soundboard versions of Wishlist with Jack - the Melb 1998 version I discussed above that has a few lyric changes ("your bulldozer's hood"). I also don't love the outro: "I guess I am a lucky man, well I guesssssss that I am..."

Then there's the Monkeywrench Radio version, which is pretty flawless. However, I didn't want to use any 'studio/radio' performances like this without an audience - thoughts?

The other option is to go with one of the strong Matt performances, both from DC funnily enough:

1998-09-19 Washington DC
2000-09-04 Washington DC

ridleybradout wrote:

ridleybradout wrote:The Melb 1998 version of Wishlist has a number of lyric changes (e.g. ref to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan), but the DC 1998-09-19 version is quite good

I've been auditioning versions of Wishlist and I really do prefer the way Jack plays this song.

There are only two soundboard versions of Wishlist with Jack - the Melb 1998 version I discussed above that has a few lyric changes ("your bulldozer's hood"). I also don't love the outro: "I guess I am a lucky man, well I guesssssss that I am..."

Then there's the Monkeywrench Radio version, which is pretty flawless. However, I didn't want to use any 'studio/radio' performances like this without an audience - thoughts?

The other option is to go with one of the strong Matt performances, both from DC funnily enough:

1998-09-19 Washington DC
2000-09-04 Washington DC

Don't think this is one of the Yield tracks that really necessitates a Jack version, so happy to go with either of the Matt DC ones.

And agree that studio/radio performances should be avoided.

Second the vote for avoiding performances that lack an audience

ridleybradout wrote:

doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee

Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery .

not sure what this means...

cutuphalfdead wrote:

ridleybradout wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?

Not bad. I think it's between this and Bern 06.

Well I vote for this.

Matt's a little too obnoxious at points in the Bern version, and Ed gets a bit over extended with those vowels.

i like the 7-3-03 as well