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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 10:54 am
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:OmegaprimeVKM wrote:PJ thinks: This is an Aya Davanita-esque interlude
Fans think: This is Hey Fakkah all over again
Whether you think these options are mutually exclusive will depend entirely on your taste.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 10:58 am
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:OmegaprimeVKM wrote:PJ thinks: This is an Aya Davanita-esque interlude
Fans think: This is Hey Fakkah all over again
Whether you think these options are mutually exclusive will depend entirely on your taste.

And the album's context.
What am I even talking about? We have no idea what "Where's the sponge?" will sound like or even if it's real. A silly song called "Where's the sponge?" would sit perfectly fine on a largely punk album with a lot of irreverent humour. We just don't know what it is, or whether it'll fit, and there's no point pretending we do.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 10:59 am
by harmless
"Where's the Sponge?" is no weirder or more stupid than "Heyfoxymophandlemamathat'sme."
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 10:59 am
by LetMeSleep
If you're going to use that logic then let's lock up this thread till LB leaks.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:01 am
by harmless
Well, sure. But I would be OK with that.
The whole thread is "Speculation", "Is there any point in this speculation?", "No", "Speculation", "Is there any point in this speculation?", "No"... etc. etc.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:06 am
by LetMeSleep
Carry on.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:08 am
by harmless
So will this album be good? Rate the album out of 10.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:12 am
by OmegaprimeVKM
harmless wrote:So will this album be good? Rate the album out of 10.
So far from what we know: 2 - Backspacer -esque so far
But there's room for improvement!! (this statement prevents Stip from sending me threatening IMs about being a Negatron rather than an Optimist Prime)
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:13 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:So will this album be good? Rate the album out of 10.
i think its a strong 7.5
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:13 am
by LetMeSleep
harmless wrote:So will this album be good? Rate the album out of 10.
Given that I've heard maybe 4 tracks in some form.....
3/10
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:22 am
by harmless
I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:27 am
by stupidmop
We've only heard 3 tracks, 2 of which are decent so that's 2/12 , which equates to about 1.6 reccuring out of 10. Maybe.So yeah.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:50 am
by LetMeSleep
harmless wrote:I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
I'm sorry but I don't like MYM (as I've said many times before) and that is the better of the 3 tracks. As for Sleeping By Myself, I don't remember it so it can't be much.
So yeah, bullshit.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:52 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
even with out hearing the rest of the album, i know the newness of it will make it at least an 8 for me to begin with, but i wont be able to objectively rank it for about 6 months or more
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:52 am
by harmless
I hope it leaks today.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:54 am
by Heathen
harmless wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:harmless wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.
I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.
Chorus is ehh,
Chorus is still kinda eh.
Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.
This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
dafuq? really?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:55 am
by LetMeSleep
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:harmless wrote:I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
even with out hearing the rest of the album, i know the newness of it will make it at least an 8 for me to begin with, but i wont be able to objectively rank it for about 6 months or more
And I'll be spinning it constantly for weeks even if it's not great. Even at their worst PJ are still pretty much captivating to me.
But based on what I've heard I'm not optimistic anymore. The last 5 tracks have really left me wanting.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:55 am
by Heathen
harmless wrote:I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
It´s a 3 at best so far, MYM might be the best song and I don't even care for it
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:57 am
by LetMeSleep
Heathen wrote:harmless wrote:I call bullshit on any score lower than a 5. I'll give it a safe 6 at the moment.
It´s a 3 at best so far, MYM might be the best song and I don't even care for it
halle-fucking-lujah, my man.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue August 13, 2013 11:59 am
by harmless
Heathen wrote:harmless wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:harmless wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:stip wrote:i haven't heard l-bolt in a few weeks. Think I'm going to listen again.
I don't mind the music at the start, but it is a bit too familiar and those lyrics drag it down.
Chorus is ehh,
Chorus is still kinda eh.
Third verse reminds me a bit of the first I feel like they stumble a bit at the 3 minute mark before they go into the outro--like they are getting tripped up on the song.
This is going to be a good song.
2+2=8
To me it reads like my early reaction to nearly every PJ song ever.
I don't remember myself saying mostly critical things about older Pearl Jam songs and somehow arriving at the conclusion they would be good.
I remember sitting in front of most of them saying "Meh, I like that bit, I don't like that bit, that bit's OK, I love that bit. Yeah... it'll grow on me."
dafuq? really?

Yes. Ten took a while to grow on me. Versus had a few songs I didn't think were great initially. I skipped the leftfield "non-songs" on Vitalogy when I was younger and didn't really understand why they were there. A couple of No Code songs I didn't really get. I was really disappointed by some of Yield, especially GTF. I hated Binaural the first time I heard it; as far as I was concerned it was PJ getting old but still trying to rock. I felt the same about Riot Act but I preferred its stripped-down depressing feel, given their age. S/T was only half good, the rest was boring. Backspacer was consistently OK but only very good on a couple of spots. And there are a lot of PJ songs that I like bits of but not everything, including MFC and In Hiding. They're very good at creating almost-good songs, and it's always been that way.
My opinion of the first 7 albums has drastically changed over time. I love them all now.