Red Mosquito

evenslow wrote:

Coach wrote:No silly punk.

I'm down with this.

Good punk: STBC, Comatose
Silly punk: Supersonic, Big Wave

B wrote:

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:At least update the TSIS main page with a new screen shot of the clock every morning.

I was annoyed that they didn't make it widget that I could embed. I'll have a look later and see if I can create one. I bet a countdown widget is out there somewhere.

OK. How's that? http://www.theskyiscrape.com/

Damn thing is 3 seconds off, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about that.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

I doubt that. Mostly because whatever was done on Backspacer wasn't done particularly well. Especially the songs that feature busier arrangements. They ruined Speed of sound by completely changing the mood of the demo and it's not like they can't build a decent arrangement layered or not. It seems that for some reason they don't seem to care enough.

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:It's unlikely they'll listen to Brendan less*, but that would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

*edited for clarification.

Then that's awesome. But however they were working with him on vs-yeild produced results better than backspacer. I just remembered reading that eddie wanted just breathe to be a little sparse song and brenden said 'NO we are going to make the most beautiful song EVAH' and added strings and whatever . I think i would have prefered the former but i don't think he killed the song or anything, hell it's probably their most successful song this decade so he was probably right and i should shutup.

I get what you're saying though, maybe if the band came to him with binaural first he'd have got them to do thier Spaciest song EVAH.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

I doubt that. Mostly because whatever was done on Backspacer wasn't done particularly well. Especially the songs that feature busier arrangements. They ruined Speed of sound by completely changing the mood of the demo and it's not like they can't build a decent arrangement layered or not. It seems that for some reason they don't seem to care enough.

I forgot about the abomination that is speed of sound. Yeah that song they did kill. Was that brenden or did eddie vomit cheese and lasers all over it himself?

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:It's unlikely they'll listen to Brendan less*, but that would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

*edited for clarification.

Then that's awesome. But however they were working with him on vs-yeild produced results better than backspacer. I just remembered reading that eddie wanted just breathe to be a little sparse song and brenden said 'NO we are going to make the most beautiful song EVAH' and added strings and whatever . I think i would have prefered the former but i don't think he killed the song or anything, hell it's probably their most successful song this decade so he was probably right and i should shutup.

I get what you're saying though, maybe if the band came to him with binaural first he'd have got them to do thier Spaciest song EVAH.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:Unlikely, but it would be nice.

I did have another thought though: what if listening to Brendan didn't kill Backspacer? What if it was just listening to Brendan's advice on how to achieve their goal ('pop' / 'new wave' or whatever)? What if he's just really good at doing what he feels is called for from record to record? What if, given a new aim for this record, Brendan does just fine and we get a nicely produced rock album?

I doubt that. Mostly because whatever was done on Backspacer wasn't done particularly well. Especially the songs that feature busier arrangements. They ruined Speed of sound by completely changing the mood of the demo and it's not like they can't build a decent arrangement layered or not. It seems that for some reason they don't seem to care enough.

I forgot about the abomination that is speed of sound. Yeah that song they did kill. Was that brenden or did eddie vomit cheese and lasers all over it himself?

harmless wrote:I don't know much about New Wave but I'm just picking a band at random... Blondie. I sure as hell don't like every musicianship choice they made. But I do like their songs. Same goes for The Cure. So, I dunno, to some extent that is New Wave for me. Eclectic and strange noises, ruining otherwise good rock songs. Synths, lasers, you name it.

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote:
I forgot about the abomination that is speed of sound. Yeah that song they did kill. Was that brenden or did eddie vomit cheese and lasers all over it himself?

It's his song, it wouldn't make sense.

Thejambi wrote:

harmless wrote:I don't know much about New Wave but I'm just picking a band at random... Blondie. I sure as hell don't like every musicianship choice they made. But I do like their songs. Same goes for The Cure. So, I dunno, to some extent that is New Wave for me. Eclectic and strange noises, ruining otherwise good rock songs. Synths, lasers, you name it.

I'm with ya. they tried something and seemed like they had fun with it. I rather enjoy having the good quality acoustic demo along with the over the top version. In the end I still like Speed of Sound. I know nothing about new wave or its definition but the Backspacer version really sounds like an intentional ode to the 80's.

Coach wrote:

stip wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Coach wrote:No uke. No silly punk. Please. Let Stone and Jeff write the tunes. Not gonna happen....I know, but we can dream.

I wouldn't mind a more fleshed out version of Without You, Sleeping By Myself, or Light Today but not on an album. Could be a cool b-side or something.

play the uke songs can't keep and then riot act's can't keep. If you can improve a song that much with a full band version I'm on board.

Agreed that there is improvement, but I don't really enjoy either version of Can't Keep.

Strat wrote:Speed of Sound is great on Backspacer.

Strat wrote:Speed of Sound is great on Backspacer.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

Coach wrote:

stip wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Coach wrote:No uke. No silly punk. Please. Let Stone and Jeff write the tunes. Not gonna happen....I know, but we can dream.

I wouldn't mind a more fleshed out version of Without You, Sleeping By Myself, or Light Today but not on an album. Could be a cool b-side or something.

play the uke songs can't keep and then riot act's can't keep. If you can improve a song that much with a full band version I'm on board.

Agreed that there is improvement, but I don't really enjoy either version of Can't Keep.

have you gotten the full band version live? i dont think i really liked it until it opened a show for me in 03, then in 08 when i got it again i was fully in love with the song.

harmless wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

harmless wrote:I don't know much about New Wave but I'm just picking a band at random... Blondie. I sure as hell don't like every musicianship choice they made. But I do like their songs. Same goes for The Cure. So, I dunno, to some extent that is New Wave for me. Eclectic and strange noises, ruining otherwise good rock songs. Synths, lasers, you name it.

I'm with ya. they tried something and seemed like they had fun with it. I rather enjoy having the good quality acoustic demo along with the over the top version. In the end I still like Speed of Sound. I know nothing about new wave or its definition but the Backspacer version really sounds like an intentional ode to the 80's.

There's every chance they got into the studio and said "Well, we had our fun. Let's make a rock album now." It would be really nice if this time, we got what we were hoping for last time.

stupidmop wrote:

Mine wrote:

stupidmop wrote:
I forgot about the abomination that is speed of sound. Yeah that song they did kill. Was that brenden or did eddie vomit cheese and lasers all over it himself?

It's his song, it wouldn't make sense.

It wouldn't make sense for eddie to ruin his own song? or wouldn't make sense for eddie to let brenden ruin his song?

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