America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

[wease]

these guys are patriot movement mcveigh wannabe right wingers, right? that's the vibe i'm getting.

They're MAGA. And have been shitty people for awhile now.

Well, when your best advice to your son is “don’t get caught”…

[E.H. Ruddock]

Why did the mother text the kid after the shooting "don't do it"? Was she hoping authorities wouldn't notice the time and think she tried to stop him?

[dimejinky99]

They’re gone on the lam!
I’m imaging a butch n Sundance ending to this

[Bi_3]

Why did the mother text the kid after the shooting "don't do it"? Was she hoping authorities wouldn't notice the time and think she tried to stop him?

Probably meant suicide

[elliseamos]

I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.

[simple schoolboy]

I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.

Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?

[elliseamos]

I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.

Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?

That's always been my understanding, but I think most of the time it's a request that reasonable parents accept. I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.

Do they not have ROs in MI? They can sometimes convince parents to take a student off the premises.

[dimejinky99]

Apprehended. And still alive! Isn’t that something? They were making a break for the border.
Giving your kid an assault rifle and him shooting up a school and then Leaving your kid sit in a cell and going on the run, I just can’t wait to see how they get outta this. And they probably will.

[wease]

It was a handgun dime, not an assault rifle.

[Bammer]

If there was a mental evaluation required before you could buy your 15 year old a gun, these folks probably would not have passed.

[macphisto]

Apprehended. And still alive! Isn’t that something? They were making a break for the border.
Giving your kid an assault rifle and him shooting up a school and then Leaving your kid sit in a cell and going on the run, I just can’t wait to see how they get outta this. And they probably will.

They probably didn’t resist arrest. Avoid getting shot by the police with this one weird trick!

Lol at you confusing a 9mm pistol with a rifle. Assault pistol!

[Bammer]

Yes mac, lol is a very appropriate response here. Nice.

[macphisto]

Yes mac, lol is a very appropriate response here. Nice.

Don’t get sanctimonious with me. I’m not loling at dead kids.

[simple schoolboy]

I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.

Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?

I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.

A pretty weak defense after the complete abdication of that duty for 18 months in some parts of the country. The admin was worried about a vague threat of litigation at some point in the future? They're public officials, they have QI. They were too lazy to push the issue.

That said, its the smallest failure here, just happened to be the last possible offramp.

[elliseamos]

I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.

Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?

I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.

A pretty weak defense after the complete abdication of that duty for 18 months in some parts of the country. The admin was worried about a vague threat of litigation at some point in the future? They're public officials, they have QI. They were too lazy to push the issue.

That said, its the smallest failure here, just happened to be the last possible offramp.

I going to ignore the "abdication" jab there.

That's why I'm curious about officers in the building. A cop could have pushed the issue as a legal matter (you're neglecting your kid by not getting him help) that would have gone beyond the school's recommendation that the kid needed to be hospitalized for a psych eval.

Nothing can explain why the kid wasn't kept in isolation with an adult at his hip if he wasn't leaving the building. How do you go from "I think you should leave and we strongly recommend getting help" to "okay, well I guess you can go back to class." Whoever made that call should re-sign and will probably face a civil suit from the 4 dead and the 7 wounded. Just awfulness everywhere I look with this one. A+ for the teacher that took the photo of his note though, really quick thinking.

[dimejinky99]

Have the same entities that stepped in to back rittenhouse jumped in here for this lot?
With the legal funding and what not?


They have it seems. Back channels. All the way.

[simple schoolboy]

Have the same entities that stepped in to back rittenhouse jumped in here for this lot?
With the legal funding and what not?


They have it seems. Back channels. All the way.

Why do you think there is a connection there?

[macphisto]

Nobody:

Dime: I don’t understand the difference between self-defense and murder.

[simple schoolboy]

Nobody:

Dime: I don’t understand the difference between self-defense and murder.

The US does have an unusually large pro school shooting caucus, but I don't think those 12 people have two nickels to rub together.

[dimejinky99]

Well given their political leanings and the gun rights of it all I think it’s fair to ask.