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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Fri December 03, 2021 11:05 pm
by wease
Well, when your best advice to your son is “don’t get caught”…
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 12:33 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Why did the mother text the kid after the shooting "don't do it"? Was she hoping authorities wouldn't notice the time and think she tried to stop him?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 12:49 am
by dimejinky99
They’re gone on the lam!
I’m imaging a butch n Sundance ending to this
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 12:53 am
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why did the mother text the kid after the shooting "don't do it"? Was she hoping authorities wouldn't notice the time and think she tried to stop him?
Probably meant suicide
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 12:57 am
by elliseamos
Bi_3 wrote:
I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 1:26 am
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:Bi_3 wrote:
I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 2:55 am
by elliseamos
simple schoolboy wrote:elliseamos wrote:Bi_3 wrote:
I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?
That's always been my understanding, but I think most of the time it's a request that reasonable parents accept. I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.
Do they not have ROs in MI? They can sometimes convince parents to take a student off the premises.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 10:07 am
by dimejinky99
Apprehended. And still alive! Isn’t that something? They were making a break for the border.
Giving your kid an assault rifle and him shooting up a school and then Leaving your kid sit in a cell and going on the run, I just can’t wait to see how they get outta this. And they probably will.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 2:39 pm
by wease
It was a handgun dime, not an assault rifle.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 2:47 pm
by Bammer
If there was a mental evaluation required before you could buy your 15 year old a gun, these folks probably would not have passed.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 4:48 pm
by macphisto
dimejinky99 wrote:Apprehended. And still alive! Isn’t that something? They were making a break for the border.
Giving your kid an assault rifle and him shooting up a school and then Leaving your kid sit in a cell and going on the run, I just can’t wait to see how they get outta this. And they probably will.
They probably didn’t resist arrest. Avoid getting shot by the police with this one weird trick!
Lol at you confusing a 9mm pistol with a rifle. Assault pistol!
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 4:50 pm
by Bammer
Yes mac, lol is a very appropriate response here. Nice.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 5:00 pm
by macphisto
Bammer wrote:Yes mac, lol is a very appropriate response here. Nice.
Don’t get sanctimonious with me. I’m not loling at dead kids.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 6:27 pm
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:elliseamos wrote:Bi_3 wrote:
I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?
I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.
A pretty weak defense after the complete abdication of that duty for 18 months in some parts of the country. The admin was worried about a vague threat of litigation at some point in the future? They're public officials, they have QI. They were too lazy to push the issue.
That said, its the smallest failure here, just happened to be the last possible offramp.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 7:03 pm
by elliseamos
simple schoolboy wrote:elliseamos wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:elliseamos wrote:Bi_3 wrote:
I am not diverting blame, but doesn't the school have some ability to remove a student at that point?

So much of this is awful, but I agree the kid shouldn't have been able to stay in school at that point, although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Don't Principals or Assistant Principals have pretty wide latitude to send kids home?
I'm pretty sure in the end you can't "deny" a student of an education.
A pretty weak defense after the complete abdication of that duty for 18 months in some parts of the country. The admin was worried about a vague threat of litigation at some point in the future? They're public officials, they have QI. They were too lazy to push the issue.
That said, its the smallest failure here, just happened to be the last possible offramp.
I going to ignore the "abdication" jab there.
That's why I'm curious about officers in the building. A cop could have pushed the issue as a legal matter (you're neglecting your kid by not getting him help) that would have gone beyond the school's recommendation that the kid needed to be hospitalized for a psych eval.
Nothing can explain why the kid wasn't kept in isolation with an adult at his hip if he wasn't leaving the building. How do you go from "I think you should leave and we strongly recommend getting help" to "okay, well I guess you can go back to class." Whoever made that call should re-sign and will probably face a civil suit from the 4 dead and the 7 wounded. Just awfulness everywhere I look with this one. A+ for the teacher that took the photo of his note though, really quick thinking.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 8:08 pm
by dimejinky99
Have the same entities that stepped in to back rittenhouse jumped in here for this lot?
With the legal funding and what not?
They have it seems. Back channels. All the way.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 8:40 pm
by simple schoolboy
dimejinky99 wrote:Have the same entities that stepped in to back rittenhouse jumped in here for this lot?
With the legal funding and what not?
They have it seems. Back channels. All the way.
Why do you think there is a connection there?
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 8:48 pm
by macphisto
Nobody:
Dime: I don’t understand the difference between self-defense and murder.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat December 04, 2021 9:03 pm
by simple schoolboy
macphisto wrote:Nobody:
Dime: I don’t understand the difference between self-defense and murder.
The US does have an unusually large pro school shooting caucus, but I don't think those 12 people have two nickels to rub together.
Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 3:02 pm
by dimejinky99
Well given their political leanings and the gun rights of it all I think it’s fair to ask.