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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
See? They literally can't conceive it!

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
LetMeSleep wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:But I could see why people who are anti-gun think said photos are problematic. They genuinely can't conceive of someone who doesn't tie the two together.
I get why they feel that way, but for Massie to agree with that view would mean he agrees that he shares moral culpability.

It'd be like asking Muslims in your neighborhood to cancel Eid al-Fitr because ISIS just committed some atrocity in the name of Islam. They don't agree and had nothing to do with it, so why should they feel bad celebrating a holiday?
1. That's a public person, not an ordinary citizen.
2. Guns have nothing to do with Xmas.
Have you not seen Die Hard!!??

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:13 pm
by BurtReynolds
None of these objections to the analogy are relevant!

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:17 pm
by McParadigm
Posing for a gun-themed Christmas photo is just the conservative version of identity politics. Everybody likes their own brand. Shrug.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:17 pm
by macphisto
blueviper wrote:School shooting or not, why would you even pose for a picture like that? They love their guns so much?

Such weird fascination with guns; especially ones that shouldn’t even be used for hunting or target practice…really the only two ways citizens would be using a gun
I agree that the picture is cringe-inducing, but he’s a politician trying to show his constituents what a patriot he is. “I stand for your rights!” I get it.

What’s your background with firearms that allows you to make a determination on which guns are suitable for hunting or target practice? Those icky looking black guns are likely chambered in cartridges with myriad hunting applications. As for saying they shouldn’t be used for recreational shooting (i.e. target practice), that’s just bizarre. Perhaps what you meant to say was, “Those guns look scary to me, and I want them outlawed.”

You also missed self-defense as a way citizens use guns. Probably an honest oversight.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:17 pm
by LetMeSleep
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:But I could see why people who are anti-gun think said photos are problematic. They genuinely can't conceive of someone who doesn't tie the two together.
I get why they feel that way, but for Massie to agree with that view would mean he agrees that he shares moral culpability.

It'd be like asking Muslims in your neighborhood to cancel Eid al-Fitr because ISIS just committed some atrocity in the name of Islam. They don't agree and had nothing to do with it, so why should they feel bad celebrating a holiday?
1. That's a public person, not an ordinary citizen.
2. Guns have nothing to do with Xmas.
Have you not seen Die Hard!!??
I stand corrected.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:18 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:Posing for a gun-themed Christmas photo is just the conservative version of identity politics. Everybody likes their own brand. Shrug.
Yeah it's just tribal signaling. Like hanging up a BLM flag outside your house.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:23 pm
by macphisto
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Well, I'm not anti gun so
Do you own a firearm?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:24 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I do

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:26 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Posing for a gun-themed Christmas photo is just the conservative version of identity politics. Everybody likes their own brand. Shrug.
Yeah it's just tribal signaling. Like hanging up a BLM flag outside your house.
More like staging a family Christmas photo where everyone is wearing a mask and has a knitted “I believe in science” sweater.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:28 pm
by simple schoolboy
McParadigm wrote:Posing for a gun-themed Christmas photo is just the conservative version of identity politics. Everybody likes their own brand. Shrug.
There are probably some local cultures where the primary motivation is not political (certain native american groups, legit rednecks, etc). Not at all apparent that Massie qualifies, so yes, agree with you on the identity politics aspect.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:31 pm
by LetMeSleep
Holy shit I be heading down a rabbit hole

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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:32 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Posing for a gun-themed Christmas photo is just the conservative version of identity politics. Everybody likes their own brand. Shrug.
Yeah it's just tribal signaling. Like hanging up a BLM flag outside your house.
More like staging a family Christmas photo where everyone is wearing a mask and has a knitted “I believe in science” sweater.
Liberal tribal signals are a lot less likely to center around religious holidays or the concept of family, admittedly.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:Again, one’s identity politics run amok result in kids being killed, the other results in CRT and tofu on the school menu. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison you guys are making.
Lot of hidden assumptions here that the right wouldn't grant.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:44 pm
by macphisto
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I do
Is it featured in your Christmas photo?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:46 pm
by BurtReynolds
I only thank my gun for its service on the fourth of July, for what it's worth.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:47 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
macphisto wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I do
Is it featured in your Christmas photo?
I think you know the answer. Not sure what you are getting at here. But just so you know I don't own a lifted pickup truck if that gives you any clue

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 11:48 pm
by Jorge
blueviper wrote:School shooting or not, why would you even pose for a picture like that? They love their guns so much?

Such weird fascination with guns; especially ones that shouldn’t even be used for hunting or target practice…really the only two ways citizens would be using a gun
Gun enthusiasts are creepy weirdos

Sorry it's not politics it's just the truth