Red Mosquito

PHATJ wrote:

tree_ wrote:WOW MD

more like.. isolate old people so i can FEED MY KIDS

It all about narrative, tree_. If they can’t make a comment with any intelligence, they just hurl insults and act like they know better than anybody else.

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:The death count, if anything, is being undercounted.

Based on what information? Everything I’ve seen indicates the opposite.

Take your pick; the revised totals of people who likely caught and died of COVID when it was spreading in the U.S. earlier than expected, massive numbers of nursing home deaths which included people who had not been tested for COVID (NYS alone had to increase their number of nursing home deaths during the crisis by nearly 2,000 just several days ago). During the pandemic, NYC was reporting approximately 200 to 215 deaths at home; typically, that number would be at 20 to 25. That's not from the Young Turks; that's the city's medical examiner. What changed?

What changed? Some people got sick and died. I also have read that suicide numbers have skyrocketed during the lockdown. I’m sure that contributed as well. I haven’t ever said that the virus wasn’t serious. I haven’t ever said people that are at risk should be forced to work, or leave their homes, or do anything. What I am advocating for is for healthy and low risk people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit with as little government intrusion as absolutely possible. This is not an unreasonable request. It’s actually at the core of American principles.

Peeps wrote:funny how when it wasnt affecting him or his family he was throwing trump in our face and saying four more years get used to it you fucking losers


now he wants everything to go back to how it was cause he and his family are being affected and he doesnt like it

PHATJ wrote:

tree_ wrote:WOW MD

more like.. isolate old people so i can FEED MY KIDS

It all about narrative, tree_. If they can’t make a comment with any intelligence, they just hurl insults and act like they know better than anybody else.

macphisto wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:The death count, if anything, is being undercounted.

Based on what information? Everything I’ve seen indicates the opposite.

Take your pick; the revised totals of people who likely caught and died of COVID when it was spreading in the U.S. earlier than expected, massive numbers of nursing home deaths which included people who had not been tested for COVID (NYS alone had to increase their number of nursing home deaths during the crisis by nearly 2,000 just several days ago). During the pandemic, NYC was reporting approximately 200 to 215 deaths at home; typically, that number would be at 20 to 25. That's not from the Young Turks; that's the city's medical examiner. What changed?

What changed? Some people got sick and died. I also have read that suicide numbers have skyrocketed during the lockdown. I’m sure that contributed as well. I haven’t ever said that the virus wasn’t serious. I haven’t ever said people that are at risk should be forced to work, or leave their homes, or do anything. What I am advocating for is for healthy and low risk people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit with as little government intrusion as absolutely possible. This is not an unreasonable request. It’s actually at the core of American principles.

There is no high risk or low risk. We are all at risk and we are all fucked by our governments horrible response to this situation. Wear it, bitch.

Shirley, you can't...



https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2 ... -died.html

wease wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:The death count, if anything, is being undercounted.

Based on what information? Everything I’ve seen indicates the opposite.

Take your pick; the revised totals of people who likely caught and died of COVID when it was spreading in the U.S. earlier than expected, massive numbers of nursing home deaths which included people who had not been tested for COVID (NYS alone had to increase their number of nursing home deaths during the crisis by nearly 2,000 just several days ago). During the pandemic, NYC was reporting approximately 200 to 215 deaths at home; typically, that number would be at 20 to 25. That's not from the Young Turks; that's the city's medical examiner. What changed?

What changed? Some people got sick and died. I also have read that suicide numbers have skyrocketed during the lockdown. I’m sure that contributed as well. I haven’t ever said that the virus wasn’t serious. I haven’t ever said people that are at risk should be forced to work, or leave their homes, or do anything. What I am advocating for is for healthy and low risk people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit with as little government intrusion as absolutely possible. This is not an unreasonable request. It’s actually at the core of American principles.

Would healthy and low risk include you?

B wrote:

Self wrote:

B wrote:

PHATJ wrote:It should also be mentioned that the practice of social distancing wasn’t designed to (and never promised to) slow mortality rates. It was designed to spread the effects of the virus over a longer period of time in order to not overwhelm hospitals. The total cases and total death numbers may be very similar to what they would’ve been without the shutdown, they will just happen over a longer period of time.

No, that's incorrect. Because if hospitals get overwhelmed and people can't get in when they need care, the death rate goes up from COVID patients and non-COVID patients who didn't get the life-saving treatment that they needed because there wasn't a bed in a hospital for them.

Wasn't the estimate 35 million if we did nothing?

I don't know, but that seems very high.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

tree_ wrote:WOW MD

more like.. isolate old people so i can FEED MY KIDS

It all about narrative, tree_. If they can’t make a comment with any intelligence, they just hurl insults and act like they know better than anybody else.

I was paraphrasing.

PHATJ wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

tree_ wrote:WOW MD

more like.. isolate old people so i can FEED MY KIDS

It all about narrative, tree_. If they can’t make a comment with any intelligence, they just hurl insults and act like they know better than anybody else.

I was paraphrasing.

No, you were being a douche bag.

PHATJ wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

tree_ wrote:WOW MD

more like.. isolate old people so i can FEED MY KIDS

It all about narrative, tree_. If they can’t make a comment with any intelligence, they just hurl insults and act like they know better than anybody else.

I was paraphrasing.

No, you were being a douche bag.

PHATJ wrote:

wease wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:The death count, if anything, is being undercounted.

Based on what information? Everything I’ve seen indicates the opposite.

Take your pick; the revised totals of people who likely caught and died of COVID when it was spreading in the U.S. earlier than expected, massive numbers of nursing home deaths which included people who had not been tested for COVID (NYS alone had to increase their number of nursing home deaths during the crisis by nearly 2,000 just several days ago). During the pandemic, NYC was reporting approximately 200 to 215 deaths at home; typically, that number would be at 20 to 25. That's not from the Young Turks; that's the city's medical examiner. What changed?

What changed? Some people got sick and died. I also have read that suicide numbers have skyrocketed during the lockdown. I’m sure that contributed as well. I haven’t ever said that the virus wasn’t serious. I haven’t ever said people that are at risk should be forced to work, or leave their homes, or do anything. What I am advocating for is for healthy and low risk people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit with as little government intrusion as absolutely possible. This is not an unreasonable request. It’s actually at the core of American principles.

Would healthy and low risk include you?

Generally speaking, yes.

Peeps wrote:

hes running against himself?

Rob wrote:No one is saying old people should die. Some people are saying the plan forward should be the one that puts older, less healthy people at more risk. There is a difference!

verb_to_trust wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

wease wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

digster wrote:The death count, if anything, is being undercounted.

Based on what information? Everything I’ve seen indicates the opposite.

Take your pick; the revised totals of people who likely caught and died of COVID when it was spreading in the U.S. earlier than expected, massive numbers of nursing home deaths which included people who had not been tested for COVID (NYS alone had to increase their number of nursing home deaths during the crisis by nearly 2,000 just several days ago). During the pandemic, NYC was reporting approximately 200 to 215 deaths at home; typically, that number would be at 20 to 25. That's not from the Young Turks; that's the city's medical examiner. What changed?

What changed? Some people got sick and died. I also have read that suicide numbers have skyrocketed during the lockdown. I’m sure that contributed as well. I haven’t ever said that the virus wasn’t serious. I haven’t ever said people that are at risk should be forced to work, or leave their homes, or do anything. What I am advocating for is for healthy and low risk people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit with as little government intrusion as absolutely possible. This is not an unreasonable request. It’s actually at the core of American principles.

Would healthy and low risk include you?

Generally speaking, yes.

Yeah, the most important organ in your body just recently exploded. No big deal. Bring on the vid.

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:No one is saying old people should die. Some people are saying the plan forward should be the one that puts older, less healthy people at more risk. There is a difference!

I believe a calculated risk would be on par to a 60mph speed limit.