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Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 9:55 am
by dimejinky99
That was funny :)

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 11:26 am
by Bi_3
spike wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Jorge wrote:Losing it with this Elon thing. I've publicly hated the man for years on this board but it's beyond wild that anyone think he did an actual Nazi salute with actual Nazi intentions. Stop. You sound stupid. You sound fucking stupid. This is "the OK sign is white supremacist dogwhistle" all over again. Stop. There's real alarming shit happening. This isn't it

Edit: I made this post before reading the last few pages of the thread and seeing that some here are proponents of the nazi salute theory. I love you guys!

What absolute nonsense this is. It doesn’t even work if you ignore or are unaware of the fact that he’s been spreading ‘racist, bigoted antisemitic memes, screenshots, graphs, charts, unsourced narratives, tropes, and buzzwords’ since he took over Twitter. He’s called for the Neo Nazi AFD to take over government in Germany and is said to be funding a lot of Neo Nazi groups around Europe. He’s been promoting them on Twitter.
This is every single day. Go and check his twitter account.

Again you’re either unaware of all that or ignoring it but the Nazi salute didn’t happen in isolation (the two Nazi salutes. He did it twice). And it clearly was a Nazi salute.
To pretend it wasn’t is deluded in the extreme.
This is why facism succeeds. Too many willing to stick their heads in the sand. Sad to see Jorge join those ranks. :(
very fine people, on both sides

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 11:31 am
by Bi_3
:haha:

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 11:53 am
by Jorge
dimejinky99 wrote:RM guy from .. checks notes… Argentina! says it’s not a Nazi salute

Sure thing Jorge. Sure thing :haha:
I'm not from Argentina, but from the famously Nazi-sympathetic country of Colombia. Same difference though right?

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 12:13 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 1:38 pm
by dimejinky99
Jorge wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:RM guy from .. checks notes… Argentina! says it’s not a Nazi salute

Sure thing Jorge. Sure thing :haha:
I'm not from Argentina, but from the famously Nazi-sympathetic country of Colombia. Same difference though right?

Oh so now you make the distinction all while knowing where I was going with it.

Your follow up post was absolute nonsense. You haven’t been paying attention or you agree with him.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 1:59 pm
by Jorge
dimejinky99 wrote:You haven’t been paying attention or you agree with him.
This is a stupid and false dichotomy

I have been paying attention to everything Elon has done from long before he bought Twitter, up to and including cozying up to Javier Milei for access to Argentina's lithium. He is a fraud and a charlatan, and should be called out for his corruption, dishonesty, and abuses. But believing he did a literal Nazi salute -- with actual Nazi intentions -- during a presidential inauguration stretches the limits of gullibility. It undermines legitimate criticism and makes us look like paranoid idiots. Not to mention the fact that this is now serving as a pretty effective smoke screen for yesterday's executive order spree.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:01 pm
by Jorge
And I mean, that post is a great example of what I'm talking about. "You either agree with my interpretation of the gesture or you're a literal Nazi." Come on.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:02 pm
by VinylGuy
ive been doing the nazi salute since kindergarten and yes, thats was a nazi salute.

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:16 pm
by dimejinky99
Jorge wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:You haven’t been paying attention or you agree with him.
This is a stupid and false dichotomy

I have been paying attention to everything Elon has done from long before he bought Twitter, up to and including cozying up to Javier Milei for access to Argentina's lithium. He is a fraud and a charlatan, and should be called out for his corruption, dishonesty, and abuses. But believing he did a literal Nazi salute -- with actual Nazi intentions -- during a presidential inauguration stretches the limits of gullibility. It undermines legitimate criticism and makes us look like paranoid idiots. Not to mention the fact that this is now serving as a pretty effective smoke screen for yesterday's executive order spree.

Quite literally every World War Two and holocaust historian with a presence on social media, has said it’s a Nazi salute. There’s ample arches you can read saying it was and al based in fact.

And you’re still ignoring his entire output since he bought that platform

So you agree with him by downplaying it or you what?

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:18 pm
by dimejinky99
Jorge wrote:And I mean, that post is a great example of what I'm talking about. "You either agree with my interpretation of the gesture or you're a literal Nazi." Come on.

And presuming your ignorance you haven’t seen musk or tump comments on the bishops sermon yesterday?

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:23 pm
by Bi_3
The RTO order for feds is causing a lot of chaos here. People talking about quitting, but I keep reminding them that we in private sector aren't hiring much and that they have pensions and healthcare costs to think about. Lots of people feeling boxed in and this is going to have a downstream impact on the country.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:25 pm
by Jorge
dimejinky99 wrote:Quite literally every World War Two and holocaust historian with a presence on social media, has said it’s a Nazi salute.
Nobody is debating that it looks like a Nazi salute. We're talking about intent, which a historian can't know any better than you or me.
dimejinky99 wrote:And you’re still ignoring his entire output since he bought that platform
No I haven't
dimejinky99 wrote:And presuming your ignorance you haven’t seen musk or tump comments on the bishops sermon yesterday?
Sure I have

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:28 pm
by BurtReynolds
dimejinky99 wrote:
Jorge wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:You haven’t been paying attention or you agree with him.
This is a stupid and false dichotomy

I have been paying attention to everything Elon has done from long before he bought Twitter, up to and including cozying up to Javier Milei for access to Argentina's lithium. He is a fraud and a charlatan, and should be called out for his corruption, dishonesty, and abuses. But believing he did a literal Nazi salute -- with actual Nazi intentions -- during a presidential inauguration stretches the limits of gullibility. It undermines legitimate criticism and makes us look like paranoid idiots. Not to mention the fact that this is now serving as a pretty effective smoke screen for yesterday's executive order spree.

Quite literally every World War Two and holocaust historian with a presence on social media, has said it’s a Nazi salute. There’s ample arches you can read saying it was and al based in fact.

And you’re still ignoring his entire output since he bought that platform

So you agree with him by downplaying it or you what?
Wtf magical abilities does a "holocaust historian" have that they are better able to spot a Nazi salute than anyone else? You really are a donkey brained moron.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:31 pm
by dad
Bi_3 wrote:The RTO order for feds is causing a lot of chaos here. People talking about quitting, but I keep reminding them that we in private sector aren't hiring much and that they have pensions and healthcare costs to think about. Lots of people feeling boxed in and this is going to have a downstream impact on the country.
yeah, my "office" is all remote and/or TW, and many folks are asking if we have to RTO. A lot of that is at the discretion of a director too. i'm not too concerned if we have to go back. I'm on the back half of 30 years of service. no way i'm jumping ship because I can't work in my house.

benefits are too good to give up as well.

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 2:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
Usually it's a ploy to get people to quit.

Re: Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 3:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
Who else can we pardon? Might be time to bring Snowden home, but I'm not sure there is a big movement for it at the moment. There was no deal in place for him in exchange for votes.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 7:15 pm
by Happy Trees
dimejinky99 wrote:Quite literally every World War Two and holocaust historian with a presence on social media, has said it’s a Nazi salute. There’s ample arches you can read saying it was and al based in fact.

And you’re still ignoring his entire output since he bought that platform

So you agree with him by downplaying it or you what?
You don't get it.

This is the pattern of conduct in the USA that has flushed us down the shitter:

Orange man and his minions make up a bogus issue like trannies in bathrooms or a war on Christianity, or do something outrageous for attention like giving a nazi salute or blatantly discriminating against minorities and immigrants.

Then gullible, outraged liberals run with the issue and then Frankenstein comes to life instead of being called out for the bullshit distraction that it is.

The result is that it serves its intended purpose, it's something to blame on liberals or to make them look crazy, or it gives credence to the made-up issue and emboldens people with theological or racist mindsets who are being baited and switched into a cult situation. And then orange man morphs into Jesus - and no evidence in plain sight or transgression that he engages in or discrimination against your own kind will ever make a difference, because Jesus never lies and shall not be questioned.

That's how trolling works, and that's how money is made and why conflicted votes are casted, and Pandora's boxes are opening left and right that can never be closed.

The actual act (giving a Nazi salute) is not the issue. The issue is why it was done, and it was done to get a reaction exactly like yours, which is how he got elected again.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 22, 2025 7:46 pm
by wease
Happy Trees wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Quite literally every World War Two and holocaust historian with a presence on social media, has said it’s a Nazi salute. There’s ample arches you can read saying it was and al based in fact.

And you’re still ignoring his entire output since he bought that platform

So you agree with him by downplaying it or you what?
You don't get it.

This is the pattern of conduct in the USA that has flushed us down the shitter:

Orange man and his minions make up a bogus issue like trannies in bathrooms or a war on Christianity, or do something outrageous for attention like giving a nazi salute or blatantly discriminating against minorities and immigrants.

Then gullible, outraged liberals run with the issue and then Frankenstein comes to life instead of being called out for the bullshit distraction that it is.

The result is that it serves its intended purpose, it's something to blame on liberals or to make them look crazy, or it gives credence to the made-up issue and emboldens people with theological or racist mindsets who are being baited and switched into a cult situation. And then orange man morphs into Jesus - and no evidence in plain sight or transgression that he engages in or discrimination against your own kind will ever make a difference, because Jesus never lies and shall not be questioned.

That's how trolling works, and that's how money is made and why conflicted votes are casted, and Pandora's boxes are opening left and right that can never be closed.

The actual act (giving a Nazi salute) is not the issue. The issue is why it was done, and it was done to get a reaction exactly like yours, which is how he got elected again.
Hire this man!