Red Mosquito

Rob wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Bammer wrote:Seattle cop killed last night while off duty and pulled over to help at a car accident scene. After getting out of her own car, she was struck by a passing vehicle (this is on the I-5 freeway). Her personal car was stolen from the scene after she was killed.

But she is a bastard and deserved it, right? So this is all totally cool.

Doesn't sound like an intentional killing, sounds like a tragic incident, then somebody took advantage of the situation. She was off-duty, probably wasn't in uniform. Could've happened to anybody that stopped to help. This story seems irrelevant to the conversation.

Would you have pulled over to help at 1am? No, you wouldn’t have.

Are there people out there who aren’t cops who would? I think we all know there are. His point is that the fact that she was a cop is irrelevant to the conversation, and he’s right.

Whatever it is you’re trying to say, you have done a masterful job of missing my point.

Bammer wrote:

Rob wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Bammer wrote:Seattle cop killed last night while off duty and pulled over to help at a car accident scene. After getting out of her own car, she was struck by a passing vehicle (this is on the I-5 freeway). Her personal car was stolen from the scene after she was killed.

But she is a bastard and deserved it, right? So this is all totally cool.

Doesn't sound like an intentional killing, sounds like a tragic incident, then somebody took advantage of the situation. She was off-duty, probably wasn't in uniform. Could've happened to anybody that stopped to help. This story seems irrelevant to the conversation.

Would you have pulled over to help at 1am? No, you wouldn’t have.

Are there people out there who aren’t cops who would? I think we all know there are. His point is that the fact that she was a cop is irrelevant to the conversation, and he’s right.

Whatever it is you’re trying to say, you have done a masterful job of missing my point.

If the point was the car being stolen, the article I read offered, "Perhaps the only good news in all of this is that the officer’s car was found. However, the thief who stole it is still on the loose."

What's the worst crime that has ever been committed against you?

elliseamos wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Rob wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Leatherhead wrote:

Bammer wrote:Seattle cop killed last night while off duty and pulled over to help at a car accident scene. After getting out of her own car, she was struck by a passing vehicle (this is on the I-5 freeway). Her personal car was stolen from the scene after she was killed.

But she is a bastard and deserved it, right? So this is all totally cool.

Doesn't sound like an intentional killing, sounds like a tragic incident, then somebody took advantage of the situation. She was off-duty, probably wasn't in uniform. Could've happened to anybody that stopped to help. This story seems irrelevant to the conversation.

Would you have pulled over to help at 1am? No, you wouldn’t have.

Are there people out there who aren’t cops who would? I think we all know there are. His point is that the fact that she was a cop is irrelevant to the conversation, and he’s right.

Whatever it is you’re trying to say, you have done a masterful job of missing my point.

If the point was the car being stolen, the article I read offered, "Perhaps the only good news in all of this is that the officer’s car was found. However, the thief who stole it is still on the loose."

Oh my God you could not be further off the scent.

What's your intended point, Bammer? You implied that because she was a police officer, she stopped to help. Others said the fact that she was an offier is irrelevant. Help us out.

Yes, the manner of her death is coincidental … totally an accident and she was not killed simply because she was a cop. That much is obvious.

My point is that she, like many other cops(!), was a good and helpful person. I don’t have data on this but I have a sneaking suspicion that an off-duty (or retired) cop is juuuusssst a little more likley to pull over and help a stranded motorist on the freeway shoulder in the middle of the night than your average software engineer. Others would make the counterpoint that all cops are bastards.

Oh and then of course the mantra that the only good cop is a dead cop, so yes there are people celebrating her death. Anyone here doing that? I don’t know.

Then something else happened in this thread, and honestly there is no pulling some of you back from the abyss. Imagine being a person who comes upon this tragic scene and instead of calling 9-1-1, you steal the person’s car. Scum of the earth, right? Now imagine being a person who hears this story and reduces the actions of the car thief to “took advantage of the situation.”

Bammer wrote:Yes, the manner of her death is coincidental … totally an accident and she was not killed simply because she was a cop. That much is obvious.

Simply? No, the fact that she was a cop is totally irrelevant.

I don’t have data on this but I have a sneaking suspicion that an off-duty (or retired) cop is juuuusssst a little more likley to pull over and help a stranded motorist on the freeway shoulder in the middle of the night than your average software engineer.

You're just projecting, here. Some people are good Samaritans, their chosen profession is irrelevant. I stopped on the highway once when I saw an older lady broken down, and gave her a ride. It's not really worthy of celebration.

Oh and then of course the mantra that the only good cop is a dead cop, so yes there are people celebrating her death. Anyone here doing that? I don’t know.

You could find out if anyone is doing that here by reading the thread. I haven't seen it.

I meant to say irrelevant. I agree with you there.

The person that ran her over was the driver or passenger of one of the cars in the car accident the off-duty-cop stopped to assist with. Not just some rando that came upon the scene. There were other uniformed police on the scene (none of them killed) and she was there helping out colleagues. I think we can assume that the opportunist took the presumably running car to flee the scene because they were drunk/responsible/injured or maybe all 3.

Bammer wrote: I don’t have data on this but I have a sneaking suspicion that an off-duty (or retired) cop is juuuusssst a little more likley to pull over and help a stranded motorist on the freeway shoulder in the middle of the night than your average software engineer.

I don't know the answer to this, but if you're going to use it as a part of your argument you should probably try to find out whether or not it's true.

JuanHamm wrote:

Bammer wrote: I don’t have data on this but I have a sneaking suspicion that an off-duty (or retired) cop is juuuusssst a little more likley to pull over and help a stranded motorist on the freeway shoulder in the middle of the night than your average software engineer.

I don't know the answer to this, but if you're going to use it as a part of your argument you should probably try to find out whether or not it's true.

As an average software engineer, I can confirm.

elliseamos wrote:The person that ran her over was the driver or passenger of one of the cars in the car accident the off-duty-cop stopped to assist with. Not just some rando that came upon the scene. There were other uniformed police on the scene (none of them killed) and she was there helping out colleagues. I think we can assume that the opportunist took the presumably running car to flee the scene because they were drunk/responsible/injured or maybe all 3.

They should've been the 20th call to 9-1-1 about the situation. Getting out of a bad situation in another person's car is the worst thing they could've done.

Are you winnin' son?

Not a gotcha,, but I am asking for a friend:

What are the current numbers for police in different borroughs? Is Manhattan already well manned? I would predict that it is given the expected traffic.

lets ask KC..

doug rr wrote:lets ask KC..

doug rr wrote:lets ask KC..

She'd get the scoop! The whole scoop! And nothing but the scoop!

Sign of the times:

Buckhead to vote to separate from Atlanta over crime and policing issues

Bi_3 wrote:Sign of the times:

Buckhead to vote to separate from Atlanta over crime and policing issues

Rich white people over reacting to a small uptick in crime after decades of sharp drops that likely doesn't even impact their isolated, uptown section of the city. That is definitely a sign of the times.

Siren of the times:

Atlantic City Hopes Blaring Nightly Curfew Sirens Will Help Curb Violence