Red Mosquito

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:These owners have been playing way too much fantasy football or something. The solution is easy to me.

-18 week season, but only 16 games per team.
-3 pre-season games, but starters can only play in 2.
-have one or two games on Sundays that start at 5:30 pm (Eastern) on a streaming service (Amazon, Youtube, etc.) that ends right before the Sunday night game starts. The rights to stream those games could make up for the revenue the owners want by adding two regular season games. It could also allow viewers who don't have cable or Sunday Ticket opportunities to see games/team outside of their markets.

Damn

What?

You solved it!

Roger is reading my memo as we speak.

Guy is overpaid. I wanna see MD in a hostile takeover.

Bammer wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:These owners have been playing way too much fantasy football or something. The solution is easy to me.

-18 week season, but only 16 games per team.
-3 pre-season games, but starters can only play in 2.
-have one or two games on Sundays that start at 5:30 pm (Eastern) on a streaming service (Amazon, Youtube, etc.) that ends right before the Sunday night game starts. The rights to stream those games could make up for the revenue the owners want by adding two regular season games. It could also allow viewers who don't have cable or Sunday Ticket opportunities to see games/team outside of their markets.

Damn

What?

You solved it!

Roger is reading my memo as we speak.

Guy is overpaid. I wanna see MD in a hostile takeover.

I will happily accept 80 percent of his paycheck.

tree_ wrote:

tree_ wrote:Very cool of the NFL to do this

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-cove ... ical-costs

poor boy...

https://miami.cbslocal.com/video/412262 ... ck-norton/

Kendrick is going home!

Man, this Tyreek stuff is so confusing and uncomfortable. On the one hand, this is the way it's supposed to work. On the other it feels off still. I hope that kid doesn't end up in a worse situation.

Have the Chiefs come up with a catchy marketing name for the Clark/Hill duo?

I already forgot the name of the third abuser guy (running back?) they had to cut from that cesspool of a franchise.

tree_ wrote:Very cool of the NFL to do this

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-cove ... ical-costs

poor boy...

Why WOULDNT he have health insurance via NFL tho?

Bammer wrote:Have the Chiefs come up with a catchy marketing name for the Clark/Hill duo?

I already forgot the name of the third abuser guy (running back?) they had to cut from that cesspool of a franchise.

Your KC takes are bizarre, bro.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bammer wrote:Have the Chiefs come up with a catchy marketing name for the Clark/Hill duo?

I already forgot the name of the third abuser guy (running back?) they had to cut from that cesspool of a franchise.

Your KC takes are bizarre, bro.

I know you're a chiefs fan but shouldn't you be taking a more righteous stance on your teams loser players?

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bammer wrote:Have the Chiefs come up with a catchy marketing name for the Clark/Hill duo?

I already forgot the name of the third abuser guy (running back?) they had to cut from that cesspool of a franchise.

Your KC takes are bizarre, bro.

I know you're a chiefs fan but shouldn't you be taking a more righteous stance on your teams loser players?

please tell me how I should feel, verb

durdencommatyler wrote:Man, this Tyreek stuff is so confusing and uncomfortable. On the one hand, this is the way it's supposed to work. On the other it feels off still. I hope that kid doesn't end up in a worse situation.

What feels off to me is that the NFL and the Chiefs have basically said through their actions, or lack thereof, is that a player can be caught on audio saying "you need to be terrified of me too, bitch" to a loved one and not be sanctioned for it. And that's within the background on whatever on earth happened to this child.

But this is reminding me of thoughts that ran through my mind when Brandon Marshall (the wide receiver) was abusing loved ones on multiple occasions. Although in his case there ended up being another complicating factor with bipolar disorder that had yet to be diagnosed, but looking back on that I do feel guilty for not holding him to task as much as I should have.

In any case, though, I hope you'll understand that as of now, Tyreek Hill is easily my most hated NFL player for multiple reasons.

Green Habit wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Man, this Tyreek stuff is so confusing and uncomfortable. On the one hand, this is the way it's supposed to work. On the other it feels off still. I hope that kid doesn't end up in a worse situation.

What feels off to me is that the NFL and the Chiefs have basically said through their actions, or lack thereof, is that a player can be caught on audio saying "you need to be terrified of me too, bitch" to a loved one and not be sanctioned for it. And that's within the background on whatever on earth happened to this child.

But this is reminding me of thoughts that ran through my mind when Brandon Marshall (the wide receiver) was abusing loved ones on multiple occasions. Although in his case there ended up being another complicating factor with bipolar disorder that had yet to be diagnosed, but looking back on that I do feel guilty for not holding him to task as much as I should have.

In any case, though, I hope you'll understand that as of now, Tyreek Hill is easily my most hated NFL player for multiple reasons.

100%. I don't disagree with you. I'm not a fan of the guy either. There is so much to unpack here and so much to look at. Having now listened to the 12 minute, unedited tape, and seen the text messages between Tyreek and Crystal, and looking at how she's refusing to participate in interviews and the investigation... I just feel gross. There's much more going on here than we were led to believe. None of it lets Hill off the hook in my mind. There's no smoking gun of exoneration. But it's more complicated than I originally thought.

And I do not like feeling what I'm feeling. I don't like defending Hill at all. But if we choose to trust the process, if the investigation by KC prosecutors and the NFL were thorough and if there is real evidence that points the other way... as a society we have to respect that right? That's why we have the system we have, flawed as it is.

I don't know. Like I said, it's all so frustrating to me. I was ready to kick him off the team and ban him from the NFL a month ago. Of course, I don't expect anyone who isn't a Chiefs fan to like the guy. I am a Chiefs fan and I'm sitting wondering how I'm going to root for him on my team. I don't think I can. But if he's innocent? Is that right? Is that fair?

This is why my team doesn't win though. Clark has cared so much about this stuff in the past. And now here we are, for the first time in decades, knowingly taking shots on these guys, knowingly accepting them onto the team and defending them. Because we want to win. And everyone else does it, so... It's so shitty. The NFL sucks. I really need to stop watching/supporting the NFL all together. The whole culture is gross. What we demand of these men without giving them the tools or care to deal with the violence we require is awful.

durdencommatyler wrote:please tell me how I should feel, verb

If you're having a tough time figuring out how to be a fan of an extremely compromised league, I have a solution, but you're not gonna like it.

And selfishly it sucks because, let's just say we do win the Super Bowl... Hill's going to be an instrumental part of that. And that sucks. If we win it'll be something that I've wanted my entire life as a fan and I won't be able to fully enjoy it because of Tyreek fucking Hill.

Blech!

But again, none of that matters. I hope the kid is okay. And I hope he doesn't end up in a worse situation. I really feel for him. He's fucking 3 years old ffs! Just awful.

Simple Torture wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:please tell me how I should feel, verb

If you're having a tough time figuring out how to be a fan of an extremely compromised league, I have a solution, but you're not gonna like it.

Oh that outcome is looking more and more likely, buddy. I struggled hard with it last year. I was willing to walk away but then... Mahomes. I'd wanted to draft a great QB for so long. And he's such a good guy (as far as we know now) and he's so easy to root for. I was really hoping we'd win the Super Bowl so I could just stop all together.

But that's also a component of all of this. There are good players, good men in the NFL. I want to support them as much as I don't want to support all the other bullshit. Like I said, it's layered and complicated and gross.

while I agree with you mostly, joey, there are good dudes in the NFL, it isn't complicated at all. Guys who have a history of violence against women and children are being allowed to continue to play and make lots of money. But I still watch, too. I guess it is like going on with life, watching our president make racist remarks daily. We watch it happen but we don't or can't do anything about it.

Janet Weiss is going to be the Chiefs new tight end.

durdencommatyler wrote:Oh that outcome is looking more and more likely, buddy. I struggled hard with it last year. I was willing to walk away but then... Mahomes. I'd wanted to draft a great QB for so long. And he's such a good guy (as far as we know now) and he's so easy to root for. I was really hoping we'd win the Super Bowl so I could just stop all together.

But that's also a component of all of this. There are good players, good men in the NFL. I want to support them as much as I don't want to support all the other bullshit. Like I said, it's layered and complicated and gross.

This really needs to be emphasized. The grand, grand majority of NFL players are good people, and I'm not going to let someone like Tyreek Hill ruin the party for all of them or for fans that enjoy the sport. And you'll find bad apples scattered in almost every profession in this world. You'll get miserable if you try to separate yourself from anything that has some shred of injustice wrapped within it.

durdencommatyler wrote:This is why my team doesn't win though. Clark has cared so much about this stuff in the past. And now here we are, for the first time in decades, knowingly taking shots on these guys, knowingly accepting them onto the team and defending them.

Ultimately, the buck stops with him, but I wonder how much of this lies on the shoulders of Veach and (especially) Dorsey. I don't want to pile on, but this is the team that went through the horrific murder-suicide that Jovan Belcher committed when they were at their lowest. You'd think that Hunt would have been haunted by that, yet, as you say...here we are, with the moves their GMs have made since then.

durdencommatyler wrote:And selfishly it sucks because, let's just say we do win the Super Bowl...

lol you don't have to worry about that