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Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:35 pm
by Mickey
Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Strat wrote:
Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Centrists are the worst race. The commies were right.
The world seem to be running low on centrists, everything is a left/right shouting match.
Chaos is the buffet that which burt feeds on
The left and right must come together to purge the centrist. Complete the horseshoe.
This is probably why the right will lose. They are so weak. They even comdemn their own, try to make a deal with anyone. Meanwhile, the left feel morally obligated to support even leftist looters, like they are the saints on earth. They will stop at nothing.

Centrist will be left to see the world burn.
At least in the states the right is FAR more unified than the left right now.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:42 pm
by Anders
Mickey wrote:
Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Strat wrote:
Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Centrists are the worst race. The commies were right.
The world seem to be running low on centrists, everything is a left/right shouting match.
Chaos is the buffet that which burt feeds on
The left and right must come together to purge the centrist. Complete the horseshoe.
This is probably why the right will lose. They are so weak. They even comdemn their own, try to make a deal with anyone. Meanwhile, the left feel morally obligated to support even leftist looters, like they are the saints on earth. They will stop at nothing.

Centrist will be left to see the world burn.
At least in the states the right is FAR more unified than the left right now.
You’ve got both the left and the centre represented in the Democratic Party, so there’s bound to be conflict in big politics. But the left seems fierce in many other arenas. Trump’s insanity is probably contributing to that growth.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:46 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:
Mickey wrote:I'm sure some people don't mean abolish the police, but obviously many do. Not sure why this is controversial.
yea weird there might be a few opposing views on how to move forward with police reform.
But that isn’t what burt is suggesting. He’s rightfully pointing out that the progressives have consistently misrepresented the message of activists, so why is there reason to believe the currently downplayed inquisition is any different?

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:50 pm
by Mickey
Mariame and other activists like Ruth Wilson Gilmore have been calling for police and prison abolition for decades. Their critiques have been adopted by people who want to reform the system without abolishing it entirely. There is sometimes an overlap in rhetoric. Again, why would this be controversial.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:50 pm
by Norah
McParadigm wrote:I’ve always been fascinated by the way that conservative persecution complexes seem to manifest as fantasies of being silenced, while also openly sharing their views and encouraging others to read articles expressing their perspective that were published in wide-reaching news magazines.
It's not just conservatives, it's basketball players too.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:52 pm
by digster
Mickey wrote:Mariame and other activists like Ruth Wilson Gilmore have been calling for police and prison abolition for decades. Their critiques have been adopted by people who want to reform the system without abolishing it entirely. There is sometimes an overlap in rhetoric. Again, why would this be controversial.
But the inquisition!

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:53 pm
by Mickey
For what it's worth, as far as I can tell Burt's "point" is that we're on our way to a cultural revolution and there's nothing you can say to disprove that.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:54 pm
by Strat
Mickey wrote:For what it's worth, as far as I can tell Burt's "point" is that we're on our way to a cultural revolution and there's nothing you can say to disprove that.
It's really everything burt has ever wanted. Blood in the streets.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:55 pm
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I’ve always been fascinated by the way that conservative persecution complexes seem to manifest as fantasies of being silenced, while also openly sharing their views and encouraging others to read articles expressing their perspective that were published in wide-reaching news magazines.
It's not just conservatives, it's basketball players too.
That's hilarious.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:56 pm
by Mickey
If I wanted to do some fear-mongering about progressive activism I'd maybe pick a historical precedent that doesn't sound so fucking metal.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 8:57 pm
by McParadigm
That's hilarious.
It really is.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:00 pm
by BurtReynolds
Shouldn't the lesson here be that peaceful marches like this are pointless and haven't been effective for decades? Hasn't capital/establishment/cathedral long since adapted to and defanged this tactic?
The violent protests have been much more productive for the protestors than marches.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
What an amazing protest. No one noticed.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:01 pm
by Mickey
Image

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:03 pm
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote: Shouldn't the lesson here be that peaceful marches like this are pointless and haven't been effective for decades? Hasn't capital/establishment/cathedral long since adapted to and defanged this tactic?
The violent protests have been much more productive for the protestors than marches.
I think the violent protests (burning and looting) were as damaging as they usually are. The difference this time around is the video of the killing of Floyd. We all could see it. All of it. The look on his eye throughout the entire killing. Also, the fact everyone has been locked inside for a couple of months. The amount of protestors, most of them peaceful, along with the continued video of police brutality towards unarmed protesters.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:04 pm
by Strat
But i didnt watch your video and i just rambled so whatever.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:06 pm
by digster
McP's rule strikes again.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 334815.php
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-c ... d=71195580

Though that's not to discount the questioning of whether peaceful protests are successful.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
Strat wrote: I think the violent protests (burning and looting) were as damaging as they usually are. The difference this time around is the video of the killing of Floyd. We all could see it. All of it. The look on his eye throughout the entire killing. Also, the fact everyone has been locked inside for a couple of months. The amount of protestors, most of them peaceful, along with the continued video of police brutality towards unarmed protesters.
Burning down the police precinct and the days of violence that followed is what got the attention and led to (supposedly) dismantling the police force. Had people just taken up signs and blocked traffic like they always do, nothing would have happened.

Now that things are settling into another Occupy Wall Street movement, the wins will stop.

People will notice this.

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:13 pm
by BurtReynolds
Things are escalating because that's the only thing that can happen, and the RM crew will continue to bury their heads in the sand saying "this isn't happening this isn't happening".

Re: The Protest Thread

Posted: Sat June 13, 2020 9:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE