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Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:27 pm
by harmless
Typically, PJ's bridges are the best part of their songs.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:29 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:i need to take a music class :P
Bridge:

Oh real bright light shining as you’re trying to breathe in thin air,
Cannot forget you’re hiding collected wounds left unhealed,
When every thought you’re thinking sinks you darker than the new moon sky,
The faraway lights rising in the whites of your eyes.


It's a musical diversion from the rest of the song and provides a change, up to a chorus or a solo. And they usually appear once in a song.

So Swallowed Whole's bridge would be:

With no quiet to be found
Spirit lifted off the ground
And what lies beyond the grave
Might be welcome change
Time will come, come what may
With now rest in peace
Until that day
cool, thanks :D

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:35 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:Typically, PJ's bridges are the best part of their songs.
it's often uncanny. Is this the case with any other band?

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:38 pm
by harmless
I don't think so, but it's been pretty much consistently true since like 1992 :lol:

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:41 pm
by Vindicator
I love PJ Bridges. Avocado has some of my favorite with Life Wasted, Comatose and Severed Hand's bridges being the highlight of the album for me.

I LOVE the bridge in MFS. It's such a crazy pleasant diversion from the aggressiveness of the rest of the song . I love what's going on musically in it with I believe is an organ ?

And is MYM's bridge the "self realized metaphysically redeemed" part even though it appears twice? It's almost like a second chorus.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:42 pm
by harmless
Yeah I'm not sure MYM would even have a bridge, really.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:43 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Vindicator wrote:I love PJ Bridges. Avocado has some of my favorite with Life Wasted, Comatose and Severed Hand's bridges being the highlight of the album for me.

I LOVE the bridge in MFS. It's such a crazy pleasant diversion from the aggressiveness of the rest of the song . I love what's going on musically in it with I believe is an organ ?

And is MYM's bridge the "self realized metaphysically redeemed" part even though it appears twice? It's almost like a second chorus.
so which part of MYM would be considered the chorus? sorry for all the questions :oops:

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:45 pm
by Vindicator
I'm pretty sure the official chorus is the "Mind your manners!" Part

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:48 pm
by harmless
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Vindicator wrote:I love PJ Bridges. Avocado has some of my favorite with Life Wasted, Comatose and Severed Hand's bridges being the highlight of the album for me.

I LOVE the bridge in MFS. It's such a crazy pleasant diversion from the aggressiveness of the rest of the song . I love what's going on musically in it with I believe is an organ ?

And is MYM's bridge the "self realized metaphysically redeemed" part even though it appears twice? It's almost like a second chorus.
so which part of MYM would be considered the chorus? sorry for all the questions :oops:
The "Self-realised and metaphysically redeemed" part could be called a chorus, I guess, but so could "And all along they're saying, mind your manners!" That song isn't clear-cut. Sirens is another one that doesn't have a bridge, more like two choruses, both of which are repeated. There's that short musical break, after the big solo and before the repeated chorus, that sort of functions as a bridge but with no lyrics...

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:50 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Vindicator wrote:I love PJ Bridges. Avocado has some of my favorite with Life Wasted, Comatose and Severed Hand's bridges being the highlight of the album for me.

I LOVE the bridge in MFS. It's such a crazy pleasant diversion from the aggressiveness of the rest of the song . I love what's going on musically in it with I believe is an organ ?

And is MYM's bridge the "self realized metaphysically redeemed" part even though it appears twice? It's almost like a second chorus.
so which part of MYM would be considered the chorus? sorry for all the questions :oops:
The "Self-realised and metaphysically redeemed" part could be called a chorus, I guess, but so could "And all along they're saying, mind your manners!" That song isn't clear-cut. Sirens is another one that doesn't have a bridge, more like two choruses, both of which are repeated. There's that short musical break, after the big solo and before the repeated chorus, that sort of functions as a bridge but with no lyrics...
ok, im listening to getaway right now, does it have a normal verse - bridge - chorus set up? if so which is which and ill listen again and hopefully figure it all out

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 4:55 pm
by harmless
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
harmless wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Vindicator wrote:I love PJ Bridges. Avocado has some of my favorite with Life Wasted, Comatose and Severed Hand's bridges being the highlight of the album for me.

I LOVE the bridge in MFS. It's such a crazy pleasant diversion from the aggressiveness of the rest of the song . I love what's going on musically in it with I believe is an organ ?

And is MYM's bridge the "self realized metaphysically redeemed" part even though it appears twice? It's almost like a second chorus.
so which part of MYM would be considered the chorus? sorry for all the questions :oops:
The "Self-realised and metaphysically redeemed" part could be called a chorus, I guess, but so could "And all along they're saying, mind your manners!" That song isn't clear-cut. Sirens is another one that doesn't have a bridge, more like two choruses, both of which are repeated. There's that short musical break, after the big solo and before the repeated chorus, that sort of functions as a bridge but with no lyrics...
ok, im listening to getaway right now, does it have a normal verse - bridge - chorus set up? if so which is which and ill listen again and hopefully figure it all out
Pre-chorus: "And if you wanna have to pray, it's alright..." all the way to "I've got my own way to believe." (Lyrics slightly different next time around.

Chorus: "It's OK, sometimes you find yourself..." to "Mine is mine and yours won't take its place, now make your getaway."

After the second chorus there's a solo, which goes back to the chorus, and then an outro. No bridge.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 11:50 pm
by evenslow
harmless wrote:Typically, PJ's bridges are the best part of their songs.
Agreed. I asked this before somewhere but was never answered (and here comes round two of that) but isn't "bridge writing" considered one of the harder aspects of songwriting? Or did I mis-read that while getting circumcised by an axe (after screaming for an hour I looked up and saw Eddie Vedder and didn't know if he was an innocent celebrity bystander ready to help me? but then quickly realized he was just the culprit enjoying his spoils)?

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Wed October 16, 2013 11:59 pm
by fishbob
Vindicator wrote:I'm pretty sure the official chorus is the "Mind your manners!" Part
Nah that's the pre-chorus to me, the "self-realized..." part is absolutely the chorus

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 12:11 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Im still confused guys, but im ok with it :lol:

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 8:20 am
by Lounge Lizard
Two of the very best bridges in PJ history are the following:

What are you running from
Taking pills to get along
Creating walls to call
Your own

So no one catches you
Drifting off and doing all the things
That we
All do


***

Stunned by own reflection
Looking back, sees me too clearly
And I swore I'll never go there again

Not unlike a friend
That politely drags you down
You down
You down...


Too good.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 9:11 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Lounge Lizard wrote:Two of the very best bridges in PJ history are the following:

What are you running from
Taking pills to get along
Creating walls to call
Your own

So no one catches you
Drifting off and doing all the things
That we
All do
That's not a bridge, it's a freaking verse.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 10:01 am
by Lounge Lizard
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:That's not a bridge, it's a freaking verse.
I don't think so.

The verse part has a different melody.

'Don't you think you've done enough
Don't you think you got enough, well, maybe...'
etc.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 11:36 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Lounge Lizard wrote:Two of the very best bridges in PJ history are the following:

What are you running from
Taking pills to get along
Creating walls to call
Your own

So no one catches you
Drifting off and doing all the things
That we
All do


***

Stunned by own reflection
Looking back, sees me too clearly
And I swore I'll never go there again

Not unlike a friend
That politely drags you down
You down
You down...


Too good.

:mrgreen:

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 9:56 pm
by harmless
I still really like this song.

Re: My Father's Son

Posted: Thu October 17, 2013 9:56 pm
by Strat
Ed really tears up thte 3rd verse. Man alive that is sexy.