Red Mosquito

Need to listen on better speakers but Ed was much too loud.

Jimmy and Edward Norton talking about their mutual love of Pearl Jam and how everyone sings along in their car and says "Oh, Eddie is totally in my range" is the kind of shit that makes me giddy. You can tell they're both real big fans

BootsToAsses wrote:Jimmy and Edward Norton talking about their mutual love of Pearl Jam and how everyone sings along in their car and says "Oh, Eddie is totally in my range" is the kind of shit that makes me giddy. You can tell they're both real big fans

It is a known quirk of the universe that my car and my shower have just the right acoustics for my voice to sound as good as vintage Ed.

Thejambi wrote:Need to listen on better speakers but Ed was much too loud.

"You gotta have Eddie good and loud, and you gotta have a groove going."

probably lightning bolt tonight huh?

that should be better

Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

McParadigm wrote:Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

bingo. eddie's having trouble coming to grips with getting older.

dprival78 wrote:probably lightning bolt tonight huh?

that should be better

I'm not looking forward to ed flailing through that outro 'no god with such mreeiiiiggghhhhhaaaa'

Does anyone else find it funny that the go on about making statements and sending messages in thier songs, and even making the songs more accessible so the songs reach more people and then on thier giant tv appearance they play a power ballad and LB and whatever the hell its about? They don't have to 'make a statement' or whatever and I guess tv is all about the getting fans....but It would be nice is what I'm saying. Idk ignore me.

dprival78 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

bingo. eddie's having trouble coming to grips with getting older.

I think this makes a lot of sense. He's been going through a long mid-life crisis, musically, lyrically etc.

McParadigm wrote:Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

aren't you the 'what matters is the studio' take guy?

I don't know that the issue here was the part. Eddie just sounded pretty hoarse even from the beginning. I think this was tour fatigue more than the song.

Not that the broader point isn't generally valid.

stip wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

aren't you the 'what matters is the studio' take guy?

I don't know that the issue here was the part. Eddie just sounded pretty hoarse even from the beginning. I think this was tour fatigue more than the song.

Not that the broader point isn't generally valid.

Cue the producer to sit down with Ed and find examples of where his sweet spot is and where he should be. Then help the band work around Ed and show case all of there musical strengths.


Or something else.

maybe it's just me but I think Eddie looks like a cross between Rowdy Roddy Piper and the Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase

I really like Sirens but unfortunately Ed cant sing it properly. The Youtube videos from the current tour arent good either.

I'm the album love no show guy, yeah. But I don't necessarily agree with the "I don't care how they do it, so long as it sounds good" crowd. All that electronic "fixing" seems fine individually...adjust Ed's vocal and you can't always tell, EQ the shit out of the drums and electronically lock them to the tempo and you dont really notice, compress and scoop frequencies out of the guitars like mad and they dont sound all that different...but then you pan out and hear it all together and it's a little bit soulless all of the sudden.

You dont need to understand those acts to hear that this record has a barrier between the humanity at its core and the listener that Yield doesn't have, or that Quadrophona doesn't have, or Harvest or The River or Begger's Banquet. When you give a tiger a very large cage, you see a tiger. But a big cage limits your control over where the tiger goes, so you start adjusting and adjusting and....

Then the cage gets too small, and what you see is the cage.

This "perfection over humanity" aesthetic makes records sound like a lot of this one does...vacant, robotic, and controlled.

Short version: I'd rather they write stuff they can play and sing well and MAKE a record than try and sound 30 by BUILDING one.

SpectorHD wrote:I really like Sirens but unfortunately Ed cant sing it properly. The Youtube videos from the current tour arent good either.

This is true...

Even the little "Mmmm" before the pre-chorus (it was more like a "Mmmawhh") was a struggle.

And yes, the vocals were too loud which enhanced all the flaws.

wow... we really nitpick the guy huh?

stip wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Yikes, what a bummer of a vocal. Lots of flats and goating.

I never understand why he keeps writing parts that are hard for him to reach. It's only going to get harder, dude, and it's not a crime to write to your current voice. It's kept some of your friends in business for years.

aren't you the 'what matters is the studio' take guy?

I don't know that the issue here was the part. Eddie just sounded pretty hoarse even from the beginning. I think this was tour fatigue more than the song.

Not that the broader point isn't generally valid.

i'm not sure that's it's tour fatigue.. eddie's been a bit flat on sirens since the start of the tour pretty much. he just can't get up there like he once could. i just wish he would face that fact and work around it, rather than continuing to write songs that he can't sing live. imo, this is the reason we haven't seen getaway yet.. there's no way he could sing that in the key used on the record. and that starts making me wonder how he did it in the studio..

McParadigm wrote:I'm the album love no show guy, yeah. But I don't necessarily agree with the "I don't care how they do it, so long as it sounds good" crowd. All that electronic "fixing" seems fine individually...adjust Ed's vocal and you can't always tell, EQ the shit out of the drums and electronically lock them to the tempo and you dont really notice, compress and scoop frequencies out of the guitars like mad and they dont sound all that different...but then you pan out and hear it all together and it's a little bit soulless all of the sudden.

You dont need to understand those acts to hear that this record has a barrier between the humanity at its core and the listener that Yield doesn't have, or that Quadrophona doesn't have, or Harvest or The River or Begger's Banquet. When you give a tiger a very large cage, you see a tiger. But a big cage limits your control over where the tiger goes, so you start adjusting and adjusting and....

Then the cage gets too small, and what you see is the cage.

This "perfection over humanity" aesthetic makes records sound like a lot of this one does...vacant, robotic, and controlled.

I wish I could buy you a beer.

GUYS HE SOUNDED GREAT ON THE MUSIC VIDEO! BETTER THAN THE STUDIO!!!!

LetMeSleep wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I'm the album love no show guy, yeah. But I don't necessarily agree with the "I don't care how they do it, so long as it sounds good" crowd. All that electronic "fixing" seems fine individually...adjust Ed's vocal and you can't always tell, EQ the shit out of the drums and electronically lock them to the tempo and you dont really notice, compress and scoop frequencies out of the guitars like mad and they dont sound all that different...but then you pan out and hear it all together and it's a little bit soulless all of the sudden.

You dont need to understand those acts to hear that this record has a barrier between the humanity at its core and the listener that Yield doesn't have, or that Quadrophona doesn't have, or Harvest or The River or Begger's Banquet. When you give a tiger a very large cage, you see a tiger. But a big cage limits your control over where the tiger goes, so you start adjusting and adjusting and....

Then the cage gets too small, and what you see is the cage.

This "perfection over humanity" aesthetic makes records sound like a lot of this one does...vacant, robotic, and controlled.

I wish I could buy you a beer.

I love the tiger analogy.