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Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 8:25 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
i got bugs wrote:How many years do you have to be the laughing stock of the league before the entire organization gets fired??
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Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 10:06 pm
by Green Habit
OK, maybe they were right to let Vernon walk. Holy shit NYG.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 10:08 pm
by epilogue
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 12:30 am
by 4/5
I mean once it got to this point it became obvious that he was going to get overpaid. I didn't think he'd be that overpaid, but still. The real lesson to me is that Miami doesn't know how to evaluate its own talent and extend these guys a year ahead of time when they could do so at a significant bargain compared to when they hit free agency.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 1:09 am
by Green Habit
4/5 wrote:I mean once it got to this point it became obvious that he was going to get overpaid. I didn't think he'd be that overpaid, but still. The real lesson to me is that Miami doesn't know how to evaluate its own talent and extend these guys a year ahead of time when they could do so at a significant bargain compared to when they hit free agency.
I wonder how many agents are going to point at Derek Wolfe and say "do you want his money now, or do you want Vernon/Jackson money later"?

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 2:01 am
by 4/5
Green Habit wrote:
4/5 wrote:I mean once it got to this point it became obvious that he was going to get overpaid. I didn't think he'd be that overpaid, but still. The real lesson to me is that Miami doesn't know how to evaluate its own talent and extend these guys a year ahead of time when they could do so at a significant bargain compared to when they hit free agency.
I wonder how many agents are going to point at Derek Wolfe and say "do you want his money now, or do you want Vernon/Jackson money later"?
True.

And also the difference between well-run organizations and the Dolphins...

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 2:03 am
by Orpheus
Green Habit wrote:
4/5 wrote:I mean once it got to this point it became obvious that he was going to get overpaid. I didn't think he'd be that overpaid, but still. The real lesson to me is that Miami doesn't know how to evaluate its own talent and extend these guys a year ahead of time when they could do so at a significant bargain compared to when they hit free agency.
I wonder how many agents are going to point at Derek Wolfe and say "do you want his money now, or do you want Vernon/Jackson money later"?
Yep, Wolfe definitely got snookered a lil bit.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 10:30 pm
by Green Habit
Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Tue March 15, 2016 9:20 pm
by Green Habit
Green Habit wrote:Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.
Well, I was dead wrong on this--didn't think Elway was going to match it. Sorry. :oops:

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Tue March 15, 2016 11:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Good talk

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 16, 2016 1:32 pm
by 4/5
Green Habit wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.
Well, I was dead wrong on this--didn't think Elway was going to match it. Sorry. :oops:
I didn't either. It kinda seems like Elway misplayed his hand but I'm not really sure.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 16, 2016 2:34 pm
by Green Habit
4/5 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.
Well, I was dead wrong on this--didn't think Elway was going to match it. Sorry. :oops:
I didn't either. It kinda seems like Elway misplayed his hand but I'm not really sure.
I thought so too, but there's a good argument that's been made that Elway was OK with figuring out what CJ's real market value was, and if it was low enough for him, he could have taken a favorable deal now instead of being forced to let him walk for more next year. It's likely that the Broncos' FO are the only ones that'll know for sure.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 16, 2016 2:46 pm
by 4/5
Green Habit wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.
Well, I was dead wrong on this--didn't think Elway was going to match it. Sorry. :oops:
I didn't either. It kinda seems like Elway misplayed his hand but I'm not really sure.
I thought so too, but there's a good argument that's been made that Elway was OK with figuring out what CJ's real market value was, and if it was low enough for him, he could have taken a favorable deal now instead of being forced to let him walk for more next year. It's likely that the Broncos' FO are the only ones that'll know for sure.
That's the sort of thing that when you're dealing with a well-run organization you give them the benefit of the doubt but if it were the other way around we'd view it as further proof the Dolphins are run by idiots.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed March 16, 2016 3:24 pm
by MattA75
Green Habit wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Well, enjoy CJ Anderson Dolphins fans. A good RB, but he must not fit Denver's zone blocking system as well as they want.
Well, I was dead wrong on this--didn't think Elway was going to match it. Sorry. :oops:
As a Dolphins fan, I'm thankful he did

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 1:09 am
by i got bugs
Jesus, at Seattle n at ne to start

Fuck you seriously schedule guys

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Tue April 26, 2016 11:26 pm
by i got bugs
Welp now I'm pretty pumped @ ne is week 2

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed April 27, 2016 12:59 pm
by 4/5
i got bugs wrote:Welp now I'm pretty pumped @ ne is week 2
I was thinking NE is pretty pumped that the Dolphins are week 2. But yeah, if this holds up I suppose Miami will at least have a puncher's chance.

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Wed April 27, 2016 3:42 pm
by MattA75
Yeah, it'll be awesome to see them win in Foxboro, get all cocky, and then probably have their doors blown off for 4 weeks in a row after that

But really, the last 20 years hasn't made me cynical as a Dolphins fan AT ALL

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu April 28, 2016 1:22 am
by i got bugs
Fins usually get them 1/2

Re: the miami dolphins

Posted: Thu April 28, 2016 3:30 pm
by MattA75
I really hope all this talk of the Dolphins moving back up to #8 just to select a friggin running back is just that...talk...I don't care if Zeke Elliott is the second coming of Adrian Peterson, there's no reason to waste first round draft capital on a running back in this league, especially if you're a team in the bottom half of the league