Red Mosquito

This thread too.

dimejinky99 wrote:This is an incredible read. Terrifying. We’re all in very very deep shit. Not just Ukraine.
If you read anything today make it this.

Damn bottom paging myself

They were ran off by the taliban, Hillary. The taliban.
You’ll be horrified when you hear who funded them.

The Taliban was founded in 1994. Their founder, Mohammed Omar, was part of the Mujahideen who fought against Russia in the Soviet–Afghan War (1979–1989). It is not strange that the Mujahideen received support, but of course very sad what has happened to Afghanistan since.

Anders wrote:The Taliban was founded in 1994. Their founder, Mohammed Omar, was part of the Mujahideen who fought against Russia in the Soviet–Afghan War (1979–1989). It is not strange that the Mujahideen received support, but of course very sad what has happened to Afghanistan since.

I doubt they’d split that particular hair.
It was all the same money and same people against the west

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:The Taliban was founded in 1994. Their founder, Mohammed Omar, was part of the Mujahideen who fought against Russia in the Soviet–Afghan War (1979–1989). It is not strange that the Mujahideen received support, but of course very sad what has happened to Afghanistan since.

I doubt they’d split that particular hair.
It was all the same money and same people against the west

Rural Afghans formed militias called mujahideen and drove out the Soviets. But then they fell into a civil war with each other. Out of that chaos emerged a group of Islamic teachers and students called the Taliban. They swept through the country, destroying mujahideen groups and imposing strict order.

From wikipedia: The Afghan mujahideen were various armed Islamist rebel groups that fought against the government of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan and the Soviet Union during the Soviet–Afghan War and the subsequent First Afghan Civil War. The term mujahideen (Arabic: مجاهدين) is used in a religious context by Muslims to refer to those engaged in a struggle of any nature for the sake of Islam, commonly referred to as jihad (جهاد‎). The Afghan mujahideen consisted of numerous groups that differed from each other across ethnic and/or ideological lines, but were united by their anti-communist and pro-Islamic goals.

Okay now bold the next part

Wouldn’t make a difference.

Sorry, do you think the anti-communist, pro-islamist groups are conceivably the good guys at any point in the late 20th century?

An anti-Soviet faction fighting for their own land, could absolutely be considered better than the opposition post ww2-pre-1990s.

It’s not really about communism as an ideology.

Uh huh, sure man, you can believe that if you want. In any case:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... books.html

Promoting violence — in the form of jihad against the Soviet invaders and their local proxies — was the goal of the U.S.-funded education effort in the 1980s and early ’90s. Textbooks such as “The Alphabet of Jihad Literacy,” funded by the U.S. and published by the University of Nebraska at Omaha, came out at a time when the CIA was channeling hundreds of millions of dollars to mujahedeen fighters to resist the Soviet occupation.

So no, the Taliban are not exactly the same as the mujahideen, but you don't really get the Taliban without the influx of pro-islamist, anti-Russian propaganda from the US government on behalf of the noble cause of anti-communism, a cause that definitely unites a lot of good guys across the world in the 1980s.

Mickey wrote:Uh huh, sure man, you can believe that if you want. In any case:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... books.html

Promoting violence — in the form of jihad against the Soviet invaders and their local proxies — was the goal of the U.S.-funded education effort in the 1980s and early ’90s. Textbooks such as “The Alphabet of Jihad Literacy,” funded by the U.S. and published by the University of Nebraska at Omaha, came out at a time when the CIA was channeling hundreds of millions of dollars to mujahedeen fighters to resist the Soviet occupation.

So no, the Taliban are not exactly the same as the mujahideen, but you don't really get the Taliban without the influx of pro-islamist, anti-Russian propaganda from the US government on behalf of the noble cause of anti-communism, a cause that definitely unites a lot of good guys across the world in the 1980s.

I agree that the Taliban could not have come without the brutal Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, all of the events during the war, and the Mujahideen fighting amongst themselves after the war. I already posted that.

tragabigzanda wrote:Either of you foreign policy experts have any ideas on how Biden should respond?

It’s important that us allies keep a united and strong front. Keep the sanctions strong. Putin does not respect weakness. Unfortunately doing more than we have done on the ground can probably not be done, so as not to be directly responsible for a NATO war with Russia. But if Ukraine keeps fghting, they will keep needing weapons and financial help.

tragabigzanda wrote:Either of you foreign policy experts have any ideas on how Biden should respond?

Order missile strikes at Klaus Schwab's house.

He just needs one of the kids at school to sit next to him at lunch and this will be over.

My artists are getting fucked by these sanctions. Great job, dumbasses.

BurtReynolds wrote:My artists are getting fucked by these sanctions. Great job, dumbasses.

I don't know what that is.