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Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 6:52 pm
by doone
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote:No Way
- Seattle 2009-09-22
I'm not sure why Adelaide 2009-11-17 was missing from the shortlist but I think it might be better than Seattle - the outro in particular is :nice:

Edit: Ed speaks over the intro which isn't ideal...
not keen on adelaide

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 7:07 pm
by doone
this is what I've got so far

Brain of J
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Faithfull
- Jones Beach 2000-08-23

No Way
- Seattle 2009-09-22
or
2014-10-20 Milwaukee

Given To Fly
- Los Angeles (LO2L) 1998-07-14

Wishlist
- 2000-09-04 Washington, DC

Pilate
-San Diego 2000-10-25

Do the Evolution
- Los Angeles (LO2L) 1998-07-13


In Hiding
- San Francisco (LOXL) 2006-07-18

Low Light
2003-07-03 Boston II Mansfield

All Those Yesterdays
- Washington DC 1998-09-19
or
- Bristow 2010-05-13

Leatherman
- Pittsburgh 2000-09-05


I don't have an opinion on Untitled, MFC, PM/PM or U

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 7:15 pm
by rimb
doone wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee
Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery :( .
not sure what this means... :|
Lol. He’s speaking Australian.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 7:17 pm
by doone
rimb wrote:
doone wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee
Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery :( .
not sure what this means... :|
Lol. He’s speaking Australian.
translate please?

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 8:12 pm
by rimb
doone wrote:
rimb wrote:
doone wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee
Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery :( .
not sure what this means... :|
Lol. He’s speaking Australian.
translate please?
“Extremely down-tuned”



... to buggery

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 8:30 pm
by ridleybradout
doone wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote: 2014-10-20 Milwaukee
Pretty tight version, but down-tuned to buggery :( .
not sure what this means... :|
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... id=4807566

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 8:53 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
No way Seattle

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 9:08 pm
by dad
doone wrote:this is what I've got so far

Brain of J
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Faithfull
- Jones Beach 2000-08-23

No Way
- Seattle 2009-09-22
or
2014-10-20 Milwaukee

Given To Fly
- Los Angeles (LO2L) 1998-07-14

Wishlist
- 2000-09-04 Washington, DC

Pilate
-San Diego 2000-10-25

Do the Evolution
- Los Angeles (LO2L) 1998-07-13


In Hiding
- San Francisco (LOXL) 2006-07-18

Low Light
2003-07-03 Boston II Mansfield

All Those Yesterdays
- Washington DC 1998-09-19
or
- Bristow 2010-05-13

Leatherman
- Pittsburgh 2000-09-05


I don't have an opinion on Untitled, MFC, PM/PM or U
If there were a better quality version of it I'd recommend All Those Yesterdays from Park City, Utah '98. One of the only versions I know where Ed screams TONIGHT! So great.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 9:14 pm
by ridleybradout
doone wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?
Not bad. I think it's between this and Bern 06.
Well I vote for this. 8-)

Matt's a little too obnoxious at points in the Bern version, and Ed gets a bit over extended with those vowels.
i like the 7-3-03 as well
I’ve found another winner from your home and native land :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed March 28, 2018 11:44 pm
by Norah
ridleybradout wrote:
doone wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:What about 7-3-03 for Low Light?
Not bad. I think it's between this and Bern 06.
Well I vote for this. 8-)

Matt's a little too obnoxious at points in the Bern version, and Ed gets a bit over extended with those vowels.
i like the 7-3-03 as well
I’ve found another winner from your home and native land :thumbsup:
go on...

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 4:38 am
by ridleybradout
Yield is complete. Thanks everyone for all the contributions and discussion - this was a tough one.


Image
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P E A R L J A M
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DEFINITIVE LIVE
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Compilation and artwork by ridleybradout
March 2018

FAN-MADE PROJECT - NOT FOR SALE

*Share freely but do not distribute as mp3*


It has been almost 13 years since the Green Habit Compilation was put together by the
Red Mosquito Forum community. As the band has now been together for double that length
of time, an update or sequel to this collection was well overdue. Hundreds of official
bootlegs later (including numerous 'vault' releases from the pre-bootleg era), every
song has been put up for review.

Red Mosquito forum users were invited to nominate and debate their favourite versions
of each song, for me to then go away and listen to each to make a final decision:
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=8556

There were a number of criteria for picking a definitive live version: sound quality,
correct lyrics, no guitar flubs, full band (if that is how the song was recorded in
the studio), electric rather than acoustic (again, if that is how the song was recorded),
and original era/drummer where possible (unless later versions had something really
special). Basically, if you had to represent the essence and power of each song through
one single live version - which would it be?

After a LOT of deliberation, this is what we came up with. Thank you to everyone for
your suggestions and for the discussion to date. This will be a constantly evolving
collection, so will be reviewed as new shows are played or released from the vault.
The best known source for each track has been used, and remastered by JWB only where
required to provide the smoothest possible listening experience.


Disc 6: 'Yield'

6-01 Brain Of J (Melbourne 1998-03-05)
6-02 Faithfull (Melbourne 1998-03-05)
6-03 No Way (Seattle 2009-09-22)
6-04 Given To Fly (Los Angeles 1998-07-14)
6-05 Wishlist (Columbia 2000-09-04)
6-06 Pilate (San Diego 2000-10-25)
6-07 Do The Evolution (Los Angeles 1998-07-13)
6-08 Untitled (Columbia 1998-09-18)
6-09 MFC (Camden 2000-09-02)
6-10 Low Light (Toronto 2006-05-10)
6-11 In Hiding (Los Angeles 1998-07-13)
6-12 Push Me, Pull Me (Berlin 2010-06-30)
6-13 All Those Yesterdays (Washington DC 1998-09-19)
6-14 Leatherman (Seattle 2000-11-06)
6-15 U (San Bernardino 2000-10-28)


Download here

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 4:39 am
by ridleybradout
Binaural baby! 8-)


Breakerfall
- Alpine Valley 2000-10-08
- Salburg 2000-06-18
- Saratoga 2000-08-27
- Boston 2000-08-29
- Bonner Springs 2003-06-12

Gods' Dice
- San Francisco 2000-10-31
- Houston 2000-10-15
- Stockholm 2000-06-28

Evacuation
- Boston 2000-08-30
- Tampa 2000-08-12
- Portland 2000-11-02

Light Years
- Pinkpop 2000-06-12

Nothing As It Seems
- Seattle 2001-10-22
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Nurnburg 2000-06-11
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18
- Mountain View 1999-10-31

Thin Air
- Zagreb 2006-09-26
- West Palm Beach 2000-08-09
- Milan 2000-06-22

Insignificance
- Verona 2000-06-20
- Salburg 2000-06-18
- Boston 2000-08-29
- Nashville 2003-04-18
- London 2005-09-12

Of the Girl
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Boise 2000-11-03

Grievance
- Bellingham 2000-05-10
- Letterman 2000-04-12
- Chicago 2000-10-09
- Houston 2000-10-15

Rival
- Yokohama 2003-01-03
- Boston 2000-08-29
- New Orleans 2000-08-14
- Adelaide 2003-02-16

Sleight of Hand
- Toronto 2000-10-05
- Katowice 2000-06-16
- Chicago 2000-10-09

Soon Forget
- Zurich 2000-06-23
- Bellingham 2000-05-10
- Los Angeles 2000-10-24

Parting Ways
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- Philadelphia 2009-10-31
- Lubbock 2000-10-18

Education
- Lexington 2016-04-26
- Mansfield 2008-06-30
- Zagreb 2006-09-26

Sad
- San Francsico 2006-07-18
- Melbourne 2006-11-16

In the Moonlight
- Alpine Valley 2011-09-03

Fatal
- Worcester 2013-10-15
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Marseille 2006-09-09

Hitchhiker
- Manchester 2012-06-21

Sweet Lew
- Philadelphia 2010-10-31

Strangest Tribe
- Boston 2016-08-05

Drifting
- Oklahoma City 2003-04-03

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 4:46 am
by Norah
the album tracks should be entirely from the 2000 tour

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 4:47 am
by Norah
Rival from Boston and Parting Ways from Lubbock are likely my suggestions, just on memory.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 5:55 am
by kreng
cutuphalfdead wrote:the album tracks should be entirely from the 2000 tour
Agreed with the exception of NAIS, groundworks 2001

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 6:09 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Gods' Dice should be from Jones Beach #1

Evacuation from Tampa (TB2K)

Rival from Boston

Parting Ways from Lubbock

Sleight Of Hand from Chicago

...those are easy just off the top of my head...

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 12:59 pm
by Ledbetterman10
I could maybe be of some help with Binaural because years ago, I made a live mix of the album using what I felt were the best performances of the songs from the U.S. Legs of the 2000 tour. Worth checking out for reference. Maybe some of you will feel they deserve inclusion.

01 Breakerfall (10-14-00, Houston)
02 God's Dice (10-15-00, Houston)
03 Evacuation (08-06-00, Greensboro)
04 Light Years (08-18-00, Indianapolis)
05 Nothing As It Seems (08-18-00, Indianapolis)
06 Thin Air (08-25-00, Jones Beach)
07 Insignificance (10-22-00, Las Vegas)
08 Of The Girl (10-08-00, East Troy)
09 Grievance (09-01-00, Philadelphia)
10 Rival (10-17-00, Dallas)
11 Sleight Of Hand (08-20-00, Cincinnati)
12 Soon Forget (08-03-00, Virginia)
13 Parting Ways (10-18-00, Lubbock)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/697ot90o1 ... 20Live.rar


I'd advocate strongly for Of The Girl from East Troy (opened the show), Grievance from Philly (perfect performance, and also my first PJ show), and Parting Ways (the version from Touring Band 2000). Nothing As It Seems though, I'd go with the 2001 version from the PJ20 movie over the one from Indy I have listed here.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 1:19 pm
by liebzz
I was always partial to the NAIS from Mountainview in 1999. I was obsessed with this for years - even after the album came out.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu March 29, 2018 1:34 pm
by darth_vedder
What about Sad and Education from the Vic Theater vault show?

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 8:23 am
by Higgs
Of the Girl from Benaroya is tasty, but I will def. check out the East Troy version to compare.