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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 3:00 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:Aria has to die, btw. Or else suffer some other terrible fate. She's got a great tragic hero arc going on.
- Spoiler: show
- DISAGREE
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 3:20 pm
by Simple Torture
I think Sansa and Arya have a chance to converge in the next few seasons and then to drastically diverge once more (like Season 1) and then have a chance to converge again, although apart. Try to follow me: in the first season, Sansa had romanticized the highborn life that the Stark kids were born into, while Arya rebelled against it, wanting to be a warrior like Princess Nymeria and all her heroes. Over the course of the next few seasons, Sansa clearly became disenchanted with the highborn life (being betrothed to shitbag Joffrey, being married to Tyrion, being married to Ramsay), and Arya became disenchanted with the idea of being a shadow ninja. They've both thrown off their earlier hopes and dreams and are on a course to converge somewhere in the North in the hopes of working together to bring the Starks back to glory. However, rewatching Season 6, I get the feeling that they're going to knock heads again pretty soon: when it's somehow revealed that Littlefinger was partly responsible for Ned's downfall (Varys certainly knows, so if there's ever a meeting between Jon's advisors and Dany's that would come out), he's going to be added to Arya's list--but he's essential for Sansa's and Jon's success (knights of the Vale and all), so she won't be allowed to touch him. Divergence again. I think Sansa will, however, eventually come to rue both her alliance with Littlefinger and the path she's jumping back on--if she becomes Lady of Winterfell, she's just going to have to marry some other dude and make babies with him, something she has an obvious hatred of. Arya may go back into the world on her own, but she's going to miss being with her "pack" in Winterfell. They won't end the story together physically, but I think they'll both be in the same headspace by the conclusion.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 3:21 pm
by Norah
I'm a big fan of the "Arya gets
- Spoiler: show
- a bittersweet ending where she does something very heroic at the end to help restore her family before dying, and then wargs into Nymeria at the moment of death so she can live a second life as her direwolf"
theory.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 3:37 pm
by stip
i hoprle arya helps sandor kill the mountain
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 4:05 pm
by Zantac Junkie
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm a big fan of the "Arya gets
- Spoiler: show
- a bittersweet ending where she does something very heroic at the end to help restore her family before dying, and then wargs into Nymeria at the moment of death so she can live a second life as her direwolf"
theory.
I've always liked that theory. That Arya
- Spoiler: show
- gets the pack in death that she always longed for in life.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 11:00 pm
by Simple Torture
This is getting close.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Sun July 16, 2017 11:38 pm
by Simple Torture
This season, I think:
- Spoiler: show
- -Littlefinger
-a dragon
-Brienne
-Pod
-Cersei
-Yara
-and Ghost
die.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 12:08 am
by Bi_3
Did you all know this is back tonight?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:14 am
by Norah
Sam's training montage was gross af.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:14 am
by The Argonaut
Why doesn't anyone live in that big castle?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:15 am
by Norah
I guess Stannis had abandoned it when he went north to defend against mance's army?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:15 am
by Simple Torture
Dat dagger doh
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:16 am
by Simple Torture
The Argonaut wrote:Why doesn't anyone live in that big castle?
No arable land on Dragonstone, if I remember correctly. You'd need allies somewhere else to supply you.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:16 am
by The Argonaut
cutuphalfdead wrote:I guess Stannis had abandoned it when he went north to defend against mance's army?
Oh, Stannis lived there? Cool
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:17 am
by Simple Torture
That hour moved very quickly; here's hoping the season slows down. The first scene was the worst one, I think.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:18 am
by Norah
The Argonaut wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:I guess Stannis had abandoned it when he went north to defend against mance's army?
Oh, Stannis lived there? Cool
He had held Dragonstone and Storm's End (I think) when he got the raven from the wall and hightailed it north.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:18 am
by The Argonaut
Kinda weird that the Lannisters wouldn't send someone there, though, right?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:18 am
by Norah
Yep, kind of weird indeed.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:19 am
by Norah
It would have made more sense if they were lightly held by the sick, old men and green boys that Stannis left behind. Kind of like the force Theon encountered at Winterfell.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon July 17, 2017 2:20 am
by Norah
Or Lannisters had they dealt with them by now.