Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Tue October 02, 2018 9:28 pm
I have never watched a Rambo movie
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Same, but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen the middle two, so I’m curious to revisit them. Especially since Jack Cardiff (greatest cinematographer of all time, IMO) lensed II.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood and Rambo are the only ones I like. Part 2 + 3 were silly. This western idea could be awesome though.
First Blood is a minor masterpiece with an incredible lead performance from Stallone, and Rambo is batshit insanity. One of the most viciously violent movies I’ve ever seen. You gotta see that one for sure, Jorge.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood (the original) still holds up really well. It's a relatively quiet movie about a Vietnam vet trying to stay out of trouble in a small Oregon town; it's nothing like the subsequent flicks and totally worth watching.theplatypus wrote:I have never watched a Rambo movie
Parts 2 and 3 were steroid action movies that were genre-appropriate for their time, but I think have aged horribly.
Rambo (part 4) was absolutely nuts and is worth watching just to see what happens when Sly Stallone gets a big production budget and doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Team tragloathedbigverminzanda72LoathedVermin72 wrote:First Blood is a minor masterpiece with an incredible lead performance from Stallone, and Rambo is batshit insanity. One of the most viciously violent movies I’ve ever seen. You gotta see that one for sure, Jorge.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood (the original) still holds up really well. It's a relatively quiet movie about a Vietnam vet trying to stay out of trouble in a small Oregon town; it's nothing like the subsequent flicks and totally worth watching.theplatypus wrote:I have never watched a Rambo movie
Parts 2 and 3 were steroid action movies that were genre-appropriate for their time, but I think have aged horribly.
Rambo (part 4) was absolutely nuts and is worth watching just to see what happens when Sly Stallone gets a big production budget and doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Please calm downtragabigzanda wrote:Is John Rambo about to unite RM?durdencommatyler wrote:Team tragloathedbigverminzanda72LoathedVermin72 wrote:First Blood is a minor masterpiece with an incredible lead performance from Stallone, and Rambo is batshit insanity. One of the most viciously violent movies I’ve ever seen. You gotta see that one for sure, Jorge.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood (the original) still holds up really well. It's a relatively quiet movie about a Vietnam vet trying to stay out of trouble in a small Oregon town; it's nothing like the subsequent flicks and totally worth watching.theplatypus wrote:I have never watched a Rambo movie
Parts 2 and 3 were steroid action movies that were genre-appropriate for their time, but I think have aged horribly.
Rambo (part 4) was absolutely nuts and is worth watching just to see what happens when Sly Stallone gets a big production budget and doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Yea...First Blood is legit.durdencommatyler wrote:Team tragloathedbigverminzanda72LoathedVermin72 wrote:First Blood is a minor masterpiece with an incredible lead performance from Stallone, and Rambo is batshit insanity. One of the most viciously violent movies I’ve ever seen. You gotta see that one for sure, Jorge.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood (the original) still holds up really well. It's a relatively quiet movie about a Vietnam vet trying to stay out of trouble in a small Oregon town; it's nothing like the subsequent flicks and totally worth watching.theplatypus wrote:I have never watched a Rambo movie
Parts 2 and 3 were steroid action movies that were genre-appropriate for their time, but I think have aged horribly.
Rambo (part 4) was absolutely nuts and is worth watching just to see what happens when Sly Stallone gets a big production budget and doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
If only i was born in the late 60's so i too could enjoy the coke roaring 80's.tragabigzanda wrote:Strat wrote:Yea...First Blood is legit.durdencommatyler wrote:Team tragloathedbigverminzanda72LoathedVermin72 wrote:First Blood is a minor masterpiece with an incredible lead performance from Stallone, and Rambo is batshit insanity. One of the most viciously violent movies I’ve ever seen. You gotta see that one for sure, Jorge.tragabigzanda wrote:First Blood (the original) still holds up really well. It's a relatively quiet movie about a Vietnam vet trying to stay out of trouble in a small Oregon town; it's nothing like the subsequent flicks and totally worth watching.theplatypus wrote:I have never watched a Rambo movie
Parts 2 and 3 were steroid action movies that were genre-appropriate for their time, but I think have aged horribly.
Rambo (part 4) was absolutely nuts and is worth watching just to see what happens when Sly Stallone gets a big production budget and doesn't give a shit about political correctness.
Kind of an interesting career arc for Stallone. Two of his greatest achievements were those smaller character piece driven films like the original Rocky and Rambo. Curious to why he took this to steroid level 10 action movies from there on out. i think thats why I enjoyed Cop Land so much because it showcased Stallones real acting chops.
Re: the move to big-budget action, hey, the 80s were a heady time:
Sly: "How much hookers and blow can I afford if we make another quiet Rambo movie?"
Accountant: "A lot."
Sly: "How much hookers and blow can I afford if we make a big-budget spectacle that destroys at the box office?"
Accountant: "More than a lot."
Sly: "In!"
Also I fucking love CliffhangerLoathedVermin72 wrote:I think that narrative about Stallone kinda misses some nuance. The dude never stopped being a great screenwriter with a knack for complicated characters; that aspect of his filmography often gets ignored. Stallone isn’t talked about enough as being a good filmmaker, which he definitely is.
Staying Alive, the Rocky sequels, Cobra, Over the Top -varying degrees of success, for sure, but he is always doing interesting things, even if they might not always be at the forefront of the material.Strat wrote:Also I fucking love CliffhangerLoathedVermin72 wrote:I think that narrative about Stallone kinda misses some nuance. The dude never stopped being a great screenwriter with a knack for complicated characters; that aspect of his filmography often gets ignored. Stallone isn’t talked about enough as being a good filmmaker, which he definitely is.
the garden of the jolly green giant!durdencommatyler wrote:I know he didn't write/direct it, but Demolition Man is one of my favorite Stallone movies. I could watch that thing every day.