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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 1:38 am
by Strat
wease wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:I love how defiant Trump is. Offering to testify under oath as if that means a goddamn thing to him. He should though. Then we can get him for lying under oath. That'd be great.

I keep waiting for him to have a moment like Jack had in A Few Good Men.
"You're goddamn right I did!"
he's getting there:
McParadigm wrote:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 2:05 am
by Biff Pocoroba
"China isn't abiding by anything. They are buying all of our coal. We can't use coal anymore, essentially. They're buying our coal and using it. Now when you talk about the planet it's so big out there. It's like they're there, we're here. We're next door neighbors, right? In terms of the universe. Miss Universe, by the way, great deal when I sold. Oh did I get rich....oh it was a great deal. You know they broke my choppers when I was selling that. 'oh, he's anti illegal immigration' they said 'we're not going to put him on television'. First of all Univision is being sued like crazy. You wouldn't believe. NBC, I made a great deal with them. It's like an amazing deal."
transcribed from a 2015 South Carolina campaign stop clip on John Oliver's show.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 2:09 am
by Strat
Biff Pocoroba wrote:"China isn't abiding by anything. They are buying all of our coal. We can't use coal anymore, essentially. They're buying our coal and using it. Now when you talk about the planet it's so big out there. It's like they're there, we're here. We're next door neighbors, right? In terms of the universe. Miss Universe, by the way, great deal when I sold. Oh did I get rich....oh it was a great deal. You know they broke my choppers when I was selling that. 'oh, he's anti illegal immigration' they said 'we're not going to put him on television'. First of all Univision is being sued like crazy. You wouldn't believe. NBC, I made a great deal with them. It's like an amazing deal."
transcribed from a 2015 South Carolina campaign stop clip on John Oliver's show.
Saw this episode. Was wanting to post that as well but I lost my mind attempting. That is amazing. This is our president.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 1:26 pm
by Bi_3
wease wrote:Strat wrote:I love how defiant Trump is. Offering to testify under oath as if that means a goddamn thing to him. He should though. Then we can get him for lying under oath. That'd be great.

Is there anything he could say or do that would make you believe he was innocent?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 2:09 pm
by digster
I'm not sure it's that unreasonable to assume Trump would say something untrue under oath...yesterday, it's not just that he's denied any collusion with Russia. He denied that he said any of the things Comey recorded him as saying, including asking him to drop the Flynn inquiry and asking Comey for 'loyalty.' He's going far further than saying he didn't play phone tag with Putin during the campaign to kill Hillary's chances.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 2:18 pm
by Bi_3
digster wrote:I'm not sure it's that unreasonable to assume Trump would say something untrue under oath...yesterday, it's not just that he's denied any collusion with Russia. He denied that he said any of the things Comey recorded him as saying, including asking him to drop the Flynn inquiry and asking Comey for 'loyalty.' He's going far further than saying he didn't play phone tag with Putin during the campaign to kill Hillary's chances.
I anticipate mainly untrue things from him a majority of the time. I was just wondering under what circumstances people here would believe him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 2:31 pm
by McParadigm
BREAKING: Trump administration makes most rational, clear-headed announcement to date:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 3:20 pm
by wease
Bi_3 wrote:digster wrote:I'm not sure it's that unreasonable to assume Trump would say something untrue under oath...yesterday, it's not just that he's denied any collusion with Russia. He denied that he said any of the things Comey recorded him as saying, including asking him to drop the Flynn inquiry and asking Comey for 'loyalty.' He's going far further than saying he didn't play phone tag with Putin during the campaign to kill Hillary's chances.
I anticipate mainly untrue things from him a majority of the time. I was just wondering under what circumstances people here would believe him.
If he came out and said "I only ran for president so I could better my own personal business interests", I would believe him. If he says anything other than that, like he cares for the American people, or cares for the LGBT community, or he isn't racist or sexist, he lying. Pure and simple.
He's been in the public eye here for, what, 30-35 years? Other than changing political party affiliation and not being friends with the Clintons anymore, he's still exactly the same immoral, unethical, unscrupulous, egomaniacal louse he always has been. He was always a punchline to a joke. Now, he wants to run our country the same way he's run his life and business. What was once a punchline is now policy.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 4:37 pm
by McParadigm
I think he trends honest any time he feels accepted, appreciated, or supported. He turns surly and exaggeratingly deflective/boastful when he feels the opposite.
His most mistakenly honest admissions have come during soft interviews, where he felt safe.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat June 10, 2017 10:27 pm
by pepperwhiteMFC
Bi_3 wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:I love how defiant Trump is. Offering to testify under oath as if that means a goddamn thing to him. He should though. Then we can get him for lying under oath. That'd be great.

Is there anything he could say or do that would make you believe he was innocent?
He tried to hustle Comey, for no reason.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 12:54 am
by B
Bi_3 wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:I love how defiant Trump is. Offering to testify under oath as if that means a goddamn thing to him. He should though. Then we can get him for lying under oath. That'd be great.

Is there anything he could say or do that would make you believe he was innocent?
At this point? Innocent of what, exactly? I don't think he purposefully and knowingly worked with Russia to undermine confidence in American elections. I do think he knew his people were meeting with Russian officials and making promises in exchange for benefits to Trump and his businesses. I'm not sure I could be convinced that he didn't. Certainly not by only Trump's words.
He's such a transparent liar. That's really what boggles my mind about the whole election. He stands up, lies like the worst liar ever, and people swear by him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 3:02 am
by pepperwhiteMFC
He's also a huge waste of 4 years.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 2:33 pm
by Anders
Strat wrote:wease wrote:wease wrote:Strat wrote:I love how defiant Trump is. Offering to testify under oath as if that means a goddamn thing to him. He should though. Then we can get him for lying under oath. That'd be great.

I keep waiting for him to have a moment like Jack had in A Few Good Men.
"You're goddamn right I did!"
he's getting there:
McParadigm wrote:

Exactly. I didn't do it, but if I did, I still wasn't wrong.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 2:38 pm
by Green Habit
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 4:23 pm
by McParadigm
pepperwhiteMFC wrote:He's also a huge waste of 4 years.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 4:23 pm
by Norah
McParadigm wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:He's also a huge waste of 4 years.

be prepared
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 4:24 pm
by LoathedVermin72
McParadigm wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:He's also a huge waste of 4 years.

Fuck
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 4:57 pm
by pepperwhiteMFC
GO TEAM MUELLER
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 7:14 pm
by BurtReynolds
http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk ... linton?amp
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Congress should investigate whether former Attorney General Loretta Lynch pressured former FBI Director James Comey to cover for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sun June 11, 2017 8:20 pm
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/337323-dem-we-need-investigate-whether-lynch-gave-cover-to-clinton?amp
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Congress should investigate whether former Attorney General Loretta Lynch pressured former FBI Director James Comey to cover for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
Lets burn them all down, Burt.