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wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

stip wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm just not sure why she can't be a "random force user" WITH a backstory. No one is saying she won't have a backstory if she isn't a skywalker.

I suspect Rey and whoever survives will then get a new trilogy after this one. This story will end the skywalker 9 arc saga. It's got three damn skywalkers in it. How many more does it need?

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

True. Hope they work that in there in an appropriate way. Snoke killed her.

To be clear, her being Luke's daughter is the last thing I want. I think it would just make the whole "new" storyline so much more stale.

The opposite for me. If the characters are just random people, it will severely weaken the story.

I'm not saying random, but would be much more interesting if she could be say, Obi-wan and Satine's granddaughter or something like that. Or tie her to lesser known characters from books/shows to then have an outlet for future stories for them. If Disney wanted to, they could keep telling stories FOREVER in the time period of TPM - Episode IX.

My strong preference, actually, would be for Rey to remain completely unrelated to anyone we know so far. If I was in charge, that's what I'd be doing. But I'm not in charge.

Then how does she fit into the overall nine episode story?

What do you mean? Exactly how she's fit in so far. She's someone who is exceptionally strong in the Force and gets taught by Luke Skywalker, that's how. It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. She meets Luke. Was Yoda related to Luke? No, and he didn't need to be. Rey learns what she can from a strong Force user who has been through a lot of shit. He's "the chosen one" in the eyes of Obi-Wan Kenobi. That's no small thing. She learns from him, maybe fights with him, and then carries on his legacy and the legacy of the Force (if not the legacy of the Jedi specifically). That's a great story. In no way does it require her to be a Skywalker or a Kenobi or a Palpatine.

Yoda was tied to Luke through Anakin and Obi-Wan. If Rey is just a girl that is strong with the force, and with no backstory, that seems terribly disappointing to me.

Also, you do realize that before Order 66 there were hundreds, maybe more, Jedi, right? And the Force isn't restricted to the Skywalker family.

Yes, but this saga isn't about the jedi in general. Lucas has said many times that Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker.

Lucas says a lot of things

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm just not sure why she can't be a "random force user" WITH a backstory. No one is saying she won't have a backstory if she isn't a skywalker.

I suspect Rey and whoever survives will then get a new trilogy after this one. This story will end the skywalker 9 arc saga. It's got three damn skywalkers in it. How many more does it need?

If Rey is random, and the Skywalkers all die. They really should not make eps 10-12 imo. More SW yes, but call it something else.

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

wease wrote:I just had a thought on why midichlorians are so stupid. They served to quantify the Force. That's the only reason he introduced them. As a way of explaining just how powerful Anakin is. It certainly could've been done differently and without midichlorians, but I realized why they are so stupid. Or another reason, anyway. If midichlorians are simply a substance found in blood, then you could take the blood and seperate everything else out, then make anyone you wanted strong in the Force by simply injecting them with it. Like a virus or something.

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

Ahh. I just really don't like the whole Anakin-as-Jesus angle.

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

Ahh. I just really don't like the whole Anakin-as-Jesus angle.

Nobody ever said anything about Jesus, though. What about Anakin Skywalker reminds you of Jesus Christ in the slightest?

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

Ahh. I just really don't like the whole Anakin-as-Jesus angle.

Nobody ever said anything about Jesus, though. What about Anakin Skywalker reminds you of Jesus Christ in the slightest?

Supremely all-powerful, virgin birth... It's pretty straightforward.

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

Ahh. I just really don't like the whole Anakin-as-Jesus angle.

Nobody ever said anything about Jesus, though. What about Anakin Skywalker reminds you of Jesus Christ in the slightest?

Supremely all-powerful, virgin birth... It's pretty straightforward.

wat

Virgin birth I can grant you. But Supremely powerful? Where are there any parallels outside of the virgin birth? And again the Virgin birth isn't divine with Anakin like it is with Jesus. It's really not comparable at all.

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:If she's Luke's daughter, I hope they don't write off who her mother is as just some "lost love from a long time ago" and she is just some meaningless person that we never see/meet.

Her mom is Ahsoka.

I know you're joking. But I want this to be true so badly. It won't be. But god I want it.

I would like that more than her being some God-like Force baby.

The idea of making Ray "of the Force" is only interesting in that it's an opportunity to "un-do" or "re-do" some of the nonsense in the Prequels. If handled correctly it could really retcon some dumb shit and make it interesting again, I think. So, I'm not opposed to the idea on its face. It's not probably my preference, but I do think there is a way to make it work and make it really interesting.

I'm opposed to on its face, ass, cock, titties, twat and anywhere else you want to name. It was stupid with Anakin and it would be stupid here.

I hated it at first, too. But once Palpatine explains it to Anakin in Revenge, I started to really come around on it. There is some fun stuff to mine in that arena. Could be really cool to see what competent writers could do with that kind of plot point.

That's the problem. Shmi didn't have anybody come on it.

Seriously, who gave out wease's password?

Ahh. I just really don't like the whole Anakin-as-Jesus angle.

Nobody ever said anything about Jesus, though. What about Anakin Skywalker reminds you of Jesus Christ in the slightest?

Supremely all-powerful, virgin birth... It's pretty straightforward.

wat

Virgin birth I can grant you. But Supremely powerful? Where are there any parallels outside of the virgin birth? And again the Virgin birth isn't divine with Anakin like it is with Jesus. It's really not comparable at all.

The Jedi say Anakin has the highest midichlorian count ever. That's pretty supremely all-powerful.

Also, he fulfills the prophecy of the Chosen One just as Jesus did as the Messiah.