Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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There's way too much prequel bashing in this TFA thread.
Once you accept that EP1 was meant for children; to entrench SW with a new generation, then the rest of the PT gets increasingly interesting from there. Unless of course you're into good acting, then forget about it.
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I just want Dec 17th to be here :(
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Agreed! But I'm getting my fix by watching the new Rebels season, and slowly rewatching all the movies.

EP1 was last week. It's been a long time since I watched the original version (the last few times I watched The Phantom Edit which is much better). All the Jar Jar stuff is obviously meant for children, and if you put yourself in that mind-space then it's fun. If you're a crusty old purist (like me), then it's just a waste of precious lightsaber time! The Darth Maul duel alone makes it worthwhile.
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I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.
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Strat wrote:I just want Dec 17th to be here :(
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Strat wrote:I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.
Yeah, that's hard to argue. My favourite moment in cinematic history will always be:

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southp wrote:
Strat wrote:I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.
Yeah, that's hard to argue. My favourite moment in cinematic history will always be:

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This one is mine:

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I know you're being sarcastic but EP3 does have some decent emotional moments (relative to the rest of the PT of course).
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I used to think there were but none of them are between anakin and padme.

I think the confrontation between Obi Wan and Anakin prior to the wielding of the light sabers is pretty decent though.
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Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.
The CGI sets and shit just take me out. I dont care about any of it when it happens. Sure, that was a good shot when they stare at eachother through a force field but other than that....meh.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
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EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
I'd say it's probably even a little bit too old to see EP1 for the first time. Regardless of previous OT exposure, the sweet spot for TPM is like 6-10.
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southp wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
I'd say it's probably even a little bit too old to see EP1 for the first time. Regardless of previous OT exposure, the sweet spot for TPM is like 6-10.
Oh shit, I think I actually was 10 now that I'm doing the math.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.
Boom. That was a great scene.
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The moment was great, but the moment the shield drops the fighting goes right back to being flash-over-emotion.

Also, don't they have special quick-run powers earlier in that same movie?
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Yes.
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