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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:32 pm
by southp
There's way too much prequel bashing in this TFA thread.
Once you accept that EP1 was meant for children; to entrench SW with a new generation, then the rest of the PT gets increasingly interesting from there. Unless of course you're into good acting, then forget about it.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:37 pm
by Strat
I just want Dec 17th to be here :(

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:43 pm
by southp
Agreed! But I'm getting my fix by watching the new Rebels season, and slowly rewatching all the movies.

EP1 was last week. It's been a long time since I watched the original version (the last few times I watched The Phantom Edit which is much better). All the Jar Jar stuff is obviously meant for children, and if you put yourself in that mind-space then it's fun. If you're a crusty old purist (like me), then it's just a waste of precious lightsaber time! The Darth Maul duel alone makes it worthwhile.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:45 pm
by Strat
I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:45 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:I just want Dec 17th to be here :(
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:52 pm
by southp
Strat wrote:I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.
Yeah, that's hard to argue. My favourite moment in cinematic history will always be:

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 6:56 pm
by Strat
southp wrote:
Strat wrote:I dont like the Lightsaber battles though. There is no emotion in there. Just a bunch of flashy lights and CGI flips. takes me out and i just dont care. Still can't beat the Skywalker/Vader duels.

I've tried. i have.
Yeah, that's hard to argue. My favourite moment in cinematic history will always be:

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This one is mine:

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:01 pm
by southp
I know you're being sarcastic but EP3 does have some decent emotional moments (relative to the rest of the PT of course).

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:03 pm
by Strat
I used to think there were but none of them are between anakin and padme.

I think the confrontation between Obi Wan and Anakin prior to the wielding of the light sabers is pretty decent though.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:09 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:12 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.
The CGI sets and shit just take me out. I dont care about any of it when it happens. Sure, that was a good shot when they stare at eachother through a force field but other than that....meh.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:48 pm
by EJ
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:49 pm
by LoathedVermin72
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:51 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 7:52 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
oh i'm totes adorbz

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 8:09 pm
by southp
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
I'd say it's probably even a little bit too old to see EP1 for the first time. Regardless of previous OT exposure, the sweet spot for TPM is like 6-10.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 8:19 pm
by LoathedVermin72
southp wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
EJ wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Everyone's prequel recall is outstanding. I have no idea how any of you remember that much about these movies.
I was 12 when TPM came out. I have seen I and II a lot.
What order did you see all the movies?

Is there anyone here who saw the prequels first?
The correct order. I had been watching the OT since I was like 3 or some shit.
12 is pretty adorable.
I'd say it's probably even a little bit too old to see EP1 for the first time. Regardless of previous OT exposure, the sweet spot for TPM is like 6-10.
Oh shit, I think I actually was 10 now that I'm doing the math.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 8:29 pm
by Coach
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Dude, the Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight is visceral as hell. There's a lot of real emotion in there. "Duel of the Fates" is an immortal piece of film score in my mind. And that moment when Qui-Gon and Maul are separated by a force field, calmly waiting to continue trying to kill each other? Magnificent. That sequence deserves to be in a better movie.
Boom. That was a great scene.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 8:40 pm
by McParadigm
The moment was great, but the moment the shield drops the fighting goes right back to being flash-over-emotion.

Also, don't they have special quick-run powers earlier in that same movie?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon October 26, 2015 8:52 pm
by CopperTom
Yes.