Red Mosquito

Rob wrote:

96583UP wrote:News Flash: You don’t know what actually happened

No one knows anything for sure, but no one seems to address his point. Doesn't it seem odd that they'd be researching a naturally occurring virus from the general area, but it only started infecting people when a mishap at the lab occurred?

Bi_3 wrote:

Rob wrote:

96583UP wrote:News Flash: You don’t know what actually happened

No one knows anything for sure, but no one seems to address his point. Doesn't it seem odd that they'd be researching a naturally occurring virus from the general area, but it only started infecting people when a mishap at the lab occurred?

I don’t know that there is evidence of it naturally occurring in the Wuhan area. The horseshoe bats generally studied at the lab and the suspected source of a wide variety of Coronaviruses were from caves 1800 km away.

McParadigm wrote:Why don’t you just tell me the name of the movie you want to see

Self wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Why don’t you just tell me the name of the movie you want to see

I have grey hairs, but this made me laugh.

Bi_3 wrote:You are conflating two separate things: (1) evidence the Wuhan lab was studying and manipulating bat derived Coronaviruses and (2) COVID-19 escaped from a lab.

Bi_3 wrote:McP, no one in this thread is claiming the virus was manufactured or altered by humans. You don’t need to debate a point no one is trying to make.

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Rob wrote:

96583UP wrote:News Flash: You don’t know what actually happened

No one knows anything for sure, but no one seems to address his point. Doesn't it seem odd that they'd be researching a naturally occurring virus from the general area, but it only started infecting people when a mishap at the lab occurred?

I don’t know that there is evidence of it naturally occurring in the Wuhan area. The horseshoe bats generally studied at the lab and the suspected source of a wide variety of Coronaviruses were from caves 1800 km away.

“Evidence from the sequence analyses clearly indicates that the reservoir host of the virus was a bat, probably a Chinese or Intermediate horseshoe bat, and it is probable that, like SARS-CoV, an intermediate host was the source of the outbreak.”

Evidence from the sequence analyses clearly indicates that the reservoir host of the virus was a bat, probably a Chinese or Intermediate horseshoe bat, and it is probable that, like SARS-CoV, an intermediate host was the source of the outbreak. To ensure that future cross-species transmission events of this new virus don’t occur again in the future, it is important to identify the reservoir and intermediate wildlife hosts. The closest known wildlife sequence to SARS-CoV-2 remains the sequence from the virus isolated from an Intermediate horseshoe bat, but there were significant differences in the receptor-binding domain between the two viruses. Malayan pangolins (Manis javanica) have been suggested as potential intermediate hosts, and SARS-like viruses have been identified in pangolins seized in anti-smuggling operations in southern China, but they only shared about 85–92% homology with SARS-CoV-2. No other possible intermediate wildlife host has been proposed at this time.

Mickey wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:You are conflating two separate things: (1) evidence the Wuhan lab was studying and manipulating bat derived Coronaviruses and (2) COVID-19 escaped from a lab.

Bi_3 wrote:McP, no one in this thread is claiming the virus was manufactured or altered by humans. You don’t need to debate a point no one is trying to make.

Mickey wrote:Oh right so you just posted it here for historical context, and when you said "it has happened before" that was purely a descriptive statement.

Mickey wrote:I'm not even sure I disagree with you in terms of content--I have no idea where it came from and do not care to learn!--but the idea that no one in this thread has suggested that China was responsible for transmission of the virus is wholly false.

Bi_3 wrote:

Mickey wrote:I'm not even sure I disagree with you in terms of content--I have no idea where it came from and do not care to learn!--but the idea that no one in this thread has suggested that China was responsible for transmission of the virus is wholly false.

Again, this is not what was said. Please go back and reread

Bi_3 wrote:Least we forget, Wuhan is the location of one of China’s largest public acknowledged bioweapons facilities. Purely coincidental, I’m sure.

96583UP wrote:now let me tell you about this UV light in the blood therapy I was reading about