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Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 3:44 pm
by tree_
Mickey wrote:
Bammer wrote:Elysian brewing Salute The Sun black lime infused pale ale.

Not bad.
I really like Elysian. We don't get it on the east coast that much but back in Vegas Space Dust was my go-to anytime it was on-tap.
Oh man I love Space Dust! Raz won a sweepstakes with them and got me a baller bad ass hat, skateboard with the space dust picture on it, and a bunch of coosies and bottle opener! I LOVE THAT BEER MAN!!!!

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 4:06 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
Bammer wrote:Elysian brewing Salute The Sun black lime infused pale ale.

Not bad.
I really like Elysian. We don't get it on the east coast that much but back in Vegas Space Dust was my go-to anytime it was on-tap.
I've only had one Elysian beer. It was an IPA. It was not at all my jam. But I'd love to try more of what they have to offer.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 4:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 4:53 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
the Buschification of America continues... :shake:

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 4:58 pm
by tree_
The Elysian Brewing Company is an American brewery that operates four pubs in Seattle. On January 23, 2015, it was announced that Elysian would be sold to Anheuser-Busch.[1] This deal means that Elysian Brewing Company will no longer meet the Brewers Association definition of a "craft brewery", since full ownership by Anheuser-Busch exceeds the definition's 25% maximum ownership by a non-craft brewery [2]
omg it's true I had no idea

still a great product, though...

I guess that explains why it's sold in so many places around here

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 5:01 pm
by run2death
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 6:00 pm
by oasisfan35
run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.
They did get purchased by AB-InBev and they tinker with all facets of the beer process as well. I only had a few brews from Elysian before the acquisition so cannot comment on a before and after of a particular. A lot comes down to capacity with scaling being far from a perfect science, even with their pretty stellar labs and practices. Growth at their level is such a penny game that it almost hurts to think about.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Wed July 10, 2019 11:51 pm
by Mickey
durdencommatyler wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Bammer wrote:Elysian brewing Salute The Sun black lime infused pale ale.

Not bad.
I really like Elysian. We don't get it on the east coast that much but back in Vegas Space Dust was my go-to anytime it was on-tap.
I've only had one Elysian beer. It was an IPA. It was not at all my jam. But I'd love to try more of what they have to offer.
Space Dust is their DIPA, never had their normal IPA.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 12:11 am
by run2death
oasisfan35 wrote:
run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.
They did get purchased by AB-InBev and they tinker with all facets of the beer process as well. I only had a few brews from Elysian before the acquisition so cannot comment on a before and after of a particular. A lot comes down to capacity with scaling being far from a perfect science, even with their pretty stellar labs and practices. Growth at their level is such a penny game that it almost hurts to think about.
I know 2 of the 3 founders of Four Peaks and they were left in control of almost every aspect of the brewing process.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 12:20 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Yeah I can't imagine AB wants to come in and try to change things. I've just always wondered if more distribution/higher production would change things at all?

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 2:39 am
by oasisfan35
run2death wrote:
oasisfan35 wrote:
run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.
They did get purchased by AB-InBev and they tinker with all facets of the beer process as well. I only had a few brews from Elysian before the acquisition so cannot comment on a before and after of a particular. A lot comes down to capacity with scaling being far from a perfect science, even with their pretty stellar labs and practices. Growth at their level is such a penny game that it almost hurts to think about.
I know 2 of the 3 founders of Four Peaks and they were left in control of almost every aspect of the brewing process.
Blue Point and Goose Island were not, though those were already well established brands in a lot of markets that kind of hit a ceiling. Breckenridge has been almost non-existent in CT since the purchase which was surprising as they had a fair amount of shelf-space around but I can't exactly compare it to when I was in CO last should I encounter it. Wicked Weed, should CT get distro, will be interesting as I was a a big fan of a few standards and obviously their sour efforts. I remember the Four Peaks acquisition but being from the East Coast it didn't exactly register to me with them being such a local entity.

And to Ruddo, my comment about scaling is directly addressing an increased distribution footprint thus higher production and that does obviously become a large factor in the grand scheme.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 8:00 pm
by epilogue
run2death wrote:
oasisfan35 wrote:
run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.
They did get purchased by AB-InBev and they tinker with all facets of the beer process as well. I only had a few brews from Elysian before the acquisition so cannot comment on a before and after of a particular. A lot comes down to capacity with scaling being far from a perfect science, even with their pretty stellar labs and practices. Growth at their level is such a penny game that it almost hurts to think about.
I know 2 of the 3 founders of Four Peaks and they were left in control of almost every aspect of the brewing process.
My mistake. Just looked it up. I had and Elusive brand IPA that I really didn't care for, not Elysian. I've never had an Elysian product.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 8:27 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:
run2death wrote:
oasisfan35 wrote:
run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Didn't they get bought by Annheiser-Busch? I wonder if their quality went down since?
From what I understand, AB tends to leave the recipes and brewing process alone for the most part. It's the distribution, marketing and sometimes the restaurant management stuff that they really screw with when they buy local breweries.
They did get purchased by AB-InBev and they tinker with all facets of the beer process as well. I only had a few brews from Elysian before the acquisition so cannot comment on a before and after of a particular. A lot comes down to capacity with scaling being far from a perfect science, even with their pretty stellar labs and practices. Growth at their level is such a penny game that it almost hurts to think about.
I know 2 of the 3 founders of Four Peaks and they were left in control of almost every aspect of the brewing process.
My mistake. Just looked it up. I had and Elusive brand IPA that I really didn't care for, not Elysian. I've never had an Elysian product.
C'mon Joey!

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 8:32 pm
by epilogue
Calm down. We all make mistakes.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Thu July 11, 2019 11:53 pm
by Mickey
Disagree. Though to be fair I guess I did buy a sixer of Brooklyn's saison.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Fri July 12, 2019 3:22 am
by Chris_H_2
i've been heavily into pilsners this summer. i needed a break from the the neipa's and iipa's i've been drinking. i feel so much better the next day.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Fri July 12, 2019 3:29 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Chris_H_2 wrote:i've been heavily into pilsners this summer. i needed a break from the the neipa's and iipa's i've been drinking. i feel so much better the next day.
I've been there same way. Lots of good local pils for me this summer

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Fri July 12, 2019 3:31 am
by Chris_H_2
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:i've been heavily into pilsners this summer. i needed a break from the the neipa's and iipa's i've been drinking. i feel so much better the next day.
I've been there same way. Lots of good local pils for me this summer
tell me about the booze scene in iceland ruddo. do i need to stock up in reykjavic or am i ok with buying around the country?

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Fri July 12, 2019 3:35 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Stock up at the duty free at the airport. Harder to find outside of restaurants otherwise, and alcohol is highly taxed there. Einstock was my favorite Icelandic beer.

Re: You Will Drink Good BEER ... And It Will Be Delicious!

Posted: Fri July 12, 2019 3:37 am
by Chris_H_2
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Stock up at the duty free at the airport. Harder to find outside of restaurants otherwise, and alcohol is highly taxed there. Einstock was my favorite Icelandic beer.
ah, good to know. thanks. i'll look out for that beer. i can't imagine going 10 days without drinking.