Red Mosquito

He offers income tax deduction based on the number of dependents and on the average cost of daycare in your state (and, because it's a deduction, being in a higher tax bracket is also helpful). For the 44% of Americans who don't earn enough to pay income tax...the people who need this the most...he offers a 1,200 dollar flat support (also at tax time).

So not only does this sound like it will be less help for middle class families than the current state (which is 20% for up to $6,000 in daycare costs, compared to Trump's 15%), it tells the poorest families to carry the cost of daycare up front all year...a cost that rivals or tops the cost of housing, in most places...and they get $1,200 to help them out at tax time. No worries, chaps. Just have thousands of dollars at the ready. We'll swing by to help out a little in 12. Lateroo.

I would qualify for a larger child care tax deduction than a family earning $70,000 a year, and at least as much as a family under the poverty line. And that's crap.

So a plan that only marginally helps low income workers, but greatly helps the white-collar middle class (situations where most of one parent's income goes to childcare) is crap?

Bi_3 wrote:So a plan that only marginally helps low income workers, but greatly helps the white-collar middle class (situations where most of one parent's income goes to childcare) is crap?

A. Yes

B. In Trump's own example, a $70,000 a year family gets about $850. So all problems solved, I'm sure. I'd get more than that.

C. Any daycare plan that helps me at ALL is wasting money that could be spent helping either of those other families. That it is actually helping me MORE than them is absurd. Any approach to daycare assistance should be very, very pyramid shaped.

McParadigm wrote:Any approach to daycare assistance should be very, very pyramid shaped.

Team McP

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:So a plan that only marginally helps low income workers, but greatly helps the white-collar middle class (situations where most of one parent's income goes to childcare) is crap?

A. Yes

B. In Trump's own example, a $70,000 a year family gets about $850. So all problems solved, I'm sure. I'd get more than that.

C. Any daycare plan that helps me at ALL is wasting money that could be spent helping either of those other families. That it is actually helping me MORE than them is absurd. Any approach to daycare assistance should be very, very pyramid shaped.

So you're saying Bernie Madoff should run this thing?

bune wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:So a plan that only marginally helps low income workers, but greatly helps the white-collar middle class (situations where most of one parent's income goes to childcare) is crap?

A. Yes

B. In Trump's own example, a $70,000 a year family gets about $850. So all problems solved, I'm sure. I'd get more than that.

C. Any daycare plan that helps me at ALL is wasting money that could be spent helping either of those other families. That it is actually helping me MORE than them is absurd. Any approach to daycare assistance should be very, very pyramid shaped.

So you're saying Bernie Madoff should run this thing?

Poor people shouldn't be breeding in the first place.

McParadigm wrote: pyramid shaped.

Illuminati is real.

Somehow I'm only seeing this now. Being hung by his own ties

dimejinky99 wrote:Somehow I'm only seeing this now. Being hung by his own ties

Not really affecting anything though. Not sure what that says about the people that support him.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Somehow I'm only seeing this now. Being hung by his own ties

Not really affecting anything though. Not sure what that says about the people that support him.

They're fcking idiots. That's what that says about them.

Also these two gems popped up in my newsfeed today.

Bill is seeming pretty old. He's only a year or two older than Hillary, and he's the same age as Trump, but he seems much older.

Being president ages a person. As I'm sure does having your life's work overshadowed by the shame of your most despicable personal weaknesses.

The FDA Food Police, which dictate how the federal government expects farmers to produce fruits and vegetables and even dictates the nutritional content of dog food.

The rules govern the soil farmers use, farm and food production hygiene, food packaging, food temperatures and even what animals may roam which fields and when. It also greatly increased inspections of food 'facilities,' and levies new taxes to pay for this inspection overkill.

It's so awful how the FDA wasted our time by initiating a recall of a kids' treat with undocumented peanuts in it, a frozen meal that included fish carrying a parasite that can be lethal, and a large amount of wheat flour that was ready to be sold with a "toxic non-food contaminant of indeterminable type" in it...this month.

Go get 'em Donny boy. They're such a great example of government waste.

Big gov't paranoia really is the worst.

Donald Trump held a press conference to announce that he had resolved the question of President Obama's birthplace and made a joke about how much danger Hillary Clinton would be in if she didn't have armed protection. And that's just the Donald Trump news today.

What is happening here again exactly?

Here's how crazy this guy is: he lives in New York, and I fully expect him to also say that he can see Russia from his house.

McParadigm wrote:Donald Trump held a press conference to announce that he had resolved the question of President Obama's birthplace...

Don't forget that just before he announced Obama was born in the US he said Hillarys campaign in 2008 started the claim that he wasn't US born. He said "she started it and I finished it." Which was pure fabrication. He knows his supporters will believe anything he says, so he says anything. Truth or not.

McParadigm wrote:Donald Trump held a press conference to announce that he had resolved the question of President Obama's birthplace and made a joke about how much danger Hillary Clinton would be in if she didn't have armed protection. And that's just the Donald Trump news today.

What is happening here again exactly?

A few minutes after he left his "press conference," the stage collapsed:

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:So a plan that only marginally helps low income workers, but greatly helps the white-collar middle class (situations where most of one parent's income goes to childcare) is crap?

A. Yes

B. In Trump's own example, a $70,000 a year family gets about $850. So all problems solved, I'm sure. I'd get more than that.

C. Any daycare plan that helps me at ALL is wasting money that could be spent helping either of those other families. That it is actually helping me MORE than them is absurd. Any approach to daycare assistance should be very, very pyramid shaped.

I disagree but my wife out of town and I've been jab at the Irish place at the striped mall