Red Mosquito

Strat wrote:and also Lucas wanted a few scenes of palpatine discussing how he is responsible for anakins birth by manipulating the midicholirans or something? Thought i read that. Stupid.

OT and the force awakens or gtfo

LoathedVermin72 wrote:As a pro-science, anti-religion person, I don't see what's good about the Force being "mysterious and nonscientific."

Also, that Gandalf quote is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Strat wrote:and also Lucas wanted a few scenes of palpatine discussing how he is responsible for anakins birth by manipulating the midicholirans or something? Thought i read that. Stupid.

OT and the force awakens or gtfo

YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN IT YET

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"Use the Force, Luke" becomes ridiculous at that point. If he is gonna use science, just use the fucking targeting computer!

but wouldn't it be more like a mutation super power? Just because they have it doesn't mean they know how to get a hold on it and use it. They could just be walking around their whole life with a shit ton of midi chlorians and be all "whatever".

What's the point then, really? "Oh turns out you have superpowers to do whatever the plot requires, have fun"

It works better as an alternative to a world of gadgets and technology, not as a really dumb add-on to an already science heavy world.

yeah good point

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:As a pro-science, anti-religion person, I don't see what's good about the Force being "mysterious and nonscientific."

Also, that Gandalf quote is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

It wasn't religion. it was spiritual and mysterious and beautiful.

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

turned2black wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

Not sure how I feel about this, honestly. I think this would take a long conversation to really break down. But I doubt RM is the forum for such a discussion.

Strat wrote:Also, i wouldnt really call it now being explained by science. It was just some shitty dialogue stating "yea, i mean, we have these little life things in our cells and everyone has them and you have a super high count so yay!"

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"Use the Force, Luke" becomes ridiculous at that point. If he is gonna use science, just use the fucking targeting computer!

but wouldn't it be more like a mutation super power? Just because they have it doesn't mean they know how to get a hold on it and use it. They could just be walking around their whole life with a shit ton of midi chlorians and be all "whatever".

What's the point then, really? "Oh turns out you have superpowers to do whatever the plot requires, have fun"

It works better as an alternative to a world of gadgets and technology, not as a really dumb add-on to an already science heavy world.

yeah good point

Just wanted Burt to see I said he was right.

BurtReynolds wrote:

turned2black wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

yeah lol. Forget your beliefs. Does it work with the story? Does it serve its themes? No of course not. If you want to make an anti-religious story, do that then, don't decide halfway through to mutilate what was working great.

BurtReynolds wrote:

turned2black wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

yeah lol. Forget your beliefs. Does it work with the story? Does it serve its themes? No of course not. If you want to make an anti-religious story, do that then, don't decide halfway through to mutilate what was working great.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

turned2black wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:you can be pro-science/anti-religion in your worldview and still want mysticism and religion in your fiction

yeah lol. Forget your beliefs. Does it work with the story? Does it serve its themes? No of course not. If you want to make an anti-religious story, do that then, don't decide halfway through to mutilate what was working great.

i'm on your side in this argument