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Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:01 am
by B
CCK is not banned from here. He hasn't asked to have his name removed, which is pointless anyhow.
And anyone who the 10C can identify as talking about the song puts their 10C membership at risk.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:13 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:14 am
by LetMeSleep
What a great name for the abandoned album.
Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:22 am
by coptheriotact
B wrote:
And anyone who the 10C can identify as talking about the song puts their 10C membership at risk.
I wonder if they would offer a partial refund
Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:30 am
by Birds in Hell
B wrote:CCK is not banned from here. He hasn't asked to have his name removed, which is pointless anyhow.
It just seems like common sense, though?
His username wasn't in the thread title originally - one of the mods has included it, which just seems like (as Jorge said) chucking him under the bus in a very explicit way.
It puts a spotlight on him in a way that seems designed to invite negative attention.
B wrote:And anyone who the 10C can identify as talking about the song puts their 10C membership at risk.
Gosh no, anything but that.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:33 am
by VinylGuy
B and stip sold us for a pic of the band (or at least boom or josh k or maybe josh evans) with their book. Thats the truth.
Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:34 am
by igotworms
B wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:B, why is Karaoke being named and shamed in the thread? Seems unnecessary.
No shame intended. He's got bigger problems.
That sounds super ominous.
Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 11:46 am
by stip
i removed the name
Re: I Am No Guide - Pearl Jam Song By Song: By stip and B
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:04 pm
by LetMeSleep
Thanks stip.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:06 pm
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:I think it's as simple as the board owners/mods prefer not to cause any friction with the band/their management. There's frequent sharing of material that happens here the band could shut down but don't - I'm thinking the fan made compilations in particular.
Shutting down discussion is a huge step but this is also a pretty significant leak, I imagine it's causing some level of internal discussions and recriminations right now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this material is/was planned for a new archival release, so there might be additional sensitivity about its broader dissemination. From their perspective, RM is where the material first (openly) circulated and the discussion here no doubt filtered across to the official board, Reddit, FB groups, etc. - I expect that's why the board has come under scrutiny.
agree or disagree, but this is a large part of the decision making. whether or not we have to comply, we are choosing to. The communication that B and I have been part of have been clear that the band, internally, views this as different. And while we are not part of the band’s orgainzation, we are not looking to have a hostile relationship- partly for reasons above, and honestly, partly as lifetime fans taking seriously the wishes of the band we love.
it may not be the choice you would have made but it is the one we made. So little is off limits here. if we put something in that bucket we would ask that you trust it is for a good reason and ask that you abide by it. whenever you dont the primary people who receive grief and have extra work are B and I. and I get it if its just B. But its me, too!
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:11 pm
by VinylGuy
for the record, i totally understand it.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:41 pm
by Bi_3
VinylGuy wrote:for the record, i totally understand it.
Yeah, RM is a privilege not a right.
That said, I think most folks here are aware of the PJ fan caste system (if you aren't, guess what) where this type of content
and more is discussed and exchanged through invite only channels. I'm not suggesting anyone here participates, I don't so I wouldn't know who does, the mods just gotta expect some level of jealous reaction from the out crowd as this is where most of us get our 'serious collector' stuff.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:46 pm
by Farmer John
Does ranking count as discussion?
How does one rank that which you can't discuss?
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:49 pm
by B
Farmer John wrote:Does ranking count as discussion?
How does one rank that which you can't discuss?
We're going to follow the no-discussion rule for the foreseeable future.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 12:51 pm
by Farmer John
B wrote:Farmer John wrote:Does ranking count as discussion?
How does one rank that which you can't discuss?
We're going to follow the no-discussion rule for the foreseeable future.
I will rank privately.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 1:20 pm
by B
Farmer John wrote:B wrote:Farmer John wrote:Does ranking count as discussion?
How does one rank that which you can't discuss?
We're going to follow the no-discussion rule for the foreseeable future.
I will rank privately.
I encourage that behavior.
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 2:12 pm
by Jorge
stip wrote:agree or disagree, but this is a large part of the decision making. whether or not we have to comply, we are choosing to. The communication that B and I have been part of have been clear that the band, internally, views this as different. And while we are not part of the band’s orgainzation, we are not looking to have a hostile relationship- partly for reasons above, and honestly, partly as lifetime fans taking seriously the wishes of the band we love.
it may not be the choice you would have made but it is the one we made. So little is off limits here. if we put something in that bucket we would ask that you trust it is for a good reason and ask that you abide by it. whenever you dont the primary people who receive grief and have extra work are B and I. and I get it if its just B. But its me, too!
Thanks for explaining your reasoning. I hate it, but it's not my board!
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 2:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 2:18 pm
by Jorge
It's a gross overstep
Gross as in significant and also as in icky
Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Tue January 14, 2025 2:24 pm
by VinylGuy
The band always behaved like this when something was stolen or leaked and they consider it very private ( aka the pearl jam movie or the birdman sessions) so this is nothing new.
Well see eventually if they release any kind of stuff or they go warmer with talking bout it. Its very recent.