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Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Fri March 22, 2013 8:07 pm
by Orpheus
I'm all for the tuck rule being gone, always hated it.

RBs can use their shoulder instead of their head but it will difficult to adjust to. I honestly don't see it being called a lot unless it's just egregious.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Fri March 22, 2013 8:08 pm
by Orpheus
Electromatic wrote:Jarvis Jones "poor" 40 time is not worrysome for teams that play 3-4. What it means is what we already knew, Jarvis Jones is a pass rush specialist. He's not going to cover TE's all the way down field. He can do it for short periods of time, but he's paid to be a disruptive game changing ball player and that's what he will be, What yesterday means is that a 4-3 defense absolutely has crossed out Jarvis Jones as a canidate. He's not playing in a 4-3.
Which he's probably fine with as sacks=$$ much more so than any stats you could put up as a coverage linebacker.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Sat March 23, 2013 1:19 am
by Green Habit
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
Green Habit wrote:I guess I'm not the average fan, but I see the potential for more confusion. Where is the magic moment when the ball has moved in far enough to declare it a pump fake? Different camera angles could tell different stories depending on the level of view. I just have a feeling that there will be some playoff game that's disputed the same as the tuck rule game thanks to this.

I do agree with you on approving the RB helmet rule, though. All the RBs complaining about this should just use a stiff arm instead. It'll look more badass anyway, since you'll be striking your Heisman pose.
What do you mean by stiff-arming? You stiff arm people coming from the side, not straight at you. That is when you lower down and hit them...
Fair enough, though with this rule it's going to be disadvantageous to go straight at the defender. Maybe a shoulder hit is more appropriate if they can't get the right angle.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Sat March 23, 2013 7:32 pm
by Peeps
i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Sat March 23, 2013 8:18 pm
by elliseamos
Peeps wrote:i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs
o-linemen & d-linemen can't do it either. i understand the call when it's a guy running through the line and all of sudden he's twisted around by his mask being grabbed, but when it's a 1:1 battle (like a wr & cb along the sideline) i don't understand the call.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Sun March 24, 2013 8:51 pm
by Self
Dumervil to Baltimore, huh? Another reason to have the opener in Denver, I suppose.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 1:31 pm
by Green Habit
Self wrote:Dumervil to Baltimore, huh? Another reason to have the opener in Denver, I suppose.
That game seems like a lock to open the season now. Oh, and Marty Magid is now firmly on the shitlist now.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 1:32 pm
by Green Habit
Peeps wrote:i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs
He would be if he actually grabbed it, but 99% of the time, he pushes it. That is legal, and defenders could also push facemasks if they wanted to.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 9:22 pm
by elliseamos
Green Habit wrote:
Peeps wrote:i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs
He would be if he actually grabbed it, but 99% of the time, he pushes it. That is legal, and defenders could also push facemasks if they wanted to.
not "in the trenches."

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 10:19 pm
by Green Habit
elliseamos wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Peeps wrote:i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs
He would be if he actually grabbed it, but 99% of the time, he pushes it. That is legal, and defenders could also push facemasks if they wanted to.
not "in the trenches."
I'm guessing that it is legal in the trenches, but the calls you're thinking of is when the hands slide under the facemask and hit the actual face--which, of course, is illegal. I could be wrong, of course.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 10:37 pm
by elliseamos
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Peeps wrote:i never understood why a running back was allowed to grab your facemask but the defender is penalized if he grabs the running backs
He would be if he actually grabbed it, but 99% of the time, he pushes it. That is legal, and defenders could also push facemasks if they wanted to.
not "in the trenches."
I'm guessing that it is legal in the trenches, but the calls you're thinking of is when the hands slide under the facemask and hit the actual face--which, of course, is illegal. I could be wrong, of course.
i'm thinking of when a DL or OL pushes the fackmask up. also, when a DL happens to hit a QB in the head while trying to swap a pass.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Mon March 25, 2013 10:51 pm
by Green Habit
elliseamos wrote:i'm thinking of when a DL or OL pushes the fackmask up. also, when a DL happens to hit a QB in the head while trying to swap a pass.
Well, the QB one is likely the head slap of the passer rule. As for the first, I'm guessing that the lineman ends up hitting the face while pushing the facemask up, or the official will think that he does. Obviously, it's going to be very rare when linemen push facemasks the way runners and receivers would in the open field, because that would be really shitty blocking in the trenches.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 2:17 pm
by Green Habit
Looks like someone doesn't want his lead blocker to leave. :haha:

EDIT: judging by his avatar, it looks like the UCLA alum lost a certain basketball bet with a Minnesota alum. This was an awesome tweet on so many levels.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 2:29 pm
by Peeps
if a defender puts his hands anywhere near a ball carriers facemask it is going to be a penalty

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Wed March 27, 2013 11:48 pm
by verb_to_trust
How big of a douchebag is Gronk?

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Thu March 28, 2013 12:18 am
by dkfan9
gronk is great

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Thu March 28, 2013 12:19 am
by dkfan9
he pulls off the whole gregarious jock thing without being an asshole

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Thu March 28, 2013 10:22 pm
by Green Habit
On a different note, I think Foxworth is right on the money when he says that multiple gay players could come out at once:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -come-out/

Since the selection of NFL players is pretty consistent by a factor not related to sexuality, the sheer math suggests that it's likely that 2-4% of the league's players may be gay.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Fri March 29, 2013 1:09 pm
by Electromatic
Green Habit wrote:On a different note, I think Foxworth is right on the money when he says that multiple gay players could come out at once:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -come-out/

Since the selection of NFL players is pretty consistent by a factor not related to sexuality, the sheer math suggests that it's likely that 2-4% of the league's players may be gay.
and Just like the general public, I think a lot of NFL players wouldn't be bothered at all, and a lot of guys would freak the hell out about it and start quoting scripture, which shouldn't be that hard when it's written on the inside of thier biceps.

Re: 2013 NFL Offseason

Posted: Fri March 29, 2013 3:01 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Electromatic wrote:
Green Habit wrote:On a different note, I think Foxworth is right on the money when he says that multiple gay players could come out at once:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -come-out/

Since the selection of NFL players is pretty consistent by a factor not related to sexuality, the sheer math suggests that it's likely that 2-4% of the league's players may be gay.
and Just like the general public, I think a lot of NFL players wouldn't be bothered at all, and a lot of guys would freak the hell out about it and start quoting scripture, which shouldn't be that hard when it's written on the inside of thier biceps.
:lol: