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tragabigzanda wrote:But are they guaranteed to be better seats or something? This industry has become vile.

I'm sure there will be a smattering. But yes. I'm sure some GA seats will be available, lower bowl by stage etc.

Yea it's awful. Truly

let's be fair. the band is doing this -- not the industry -- and they don't have to.

They industry as whole, which includes them, yes is doing it

the destroyer tickets that my sister and i have for this weekend didn't have a premium option. your framing of this change to some bands' pricing policies obscures the fact that not every band does this, but pearl jam does

That's not a fair comparison at all. And I'm not saying every band does it. Seems like most bands at pjs level are doing it now.

Destroyer are playing at Otto bar in Baltimore. Your classic local haunt that serves take out food and bar games.

you're right, they are not similar bands, but they are in the same industry.

all im saying is your framing is wrong. I don't know why you're insisting on this sleight of hand of redescrbing the dynamics for some successful artists as "an industry wide reality."

Industry wide in difficulty and increased costs of touring. Tons of articles out there

that's totally fair: there is an industry-wide difficult in touring. my point was simply that this particular solution to that problem isn't industry-wide.

but trag makes a strong case for why market dynamics at a certain level of success (bands who tour arenas) would make this dynamic unavoidable.

A lot of 10c members getting re-allocated to way worse seats, and some with numbers below 100xxx are in the upper level behind some with 400xxx.

Wait. Destroyer is touring? I thought it was Dan Bejar solo. Crap.

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tragabigzanda wrote:But are they guaranteed to be better seats or something? This industry has become vile.

I'm sure there will be a smattering. But yes. I'm sure some GA seats will be available, lower bowl by stage etc.

Yea it's awful. Truly

let's be fair. the band is doing this -- not the industry -- and they don't have to.

They industry as whole, which includes them, yes is doing it

the destroyer tickets that my sister and i have for this weekend didn't have a premium option. your framing of this change to some bands' pricing policies obscures the fact that not every band does this, but pearl jam does

That's not a fair comparison at all. And I'm not saying every band does it. Seems like most bands at pjs level are doing it now.

Destroyer are playing at Otto bar in Baltimore. Your classic local haunt that serves take out food and bar games.

you're right, they are not similar bands, but they are in the same industry.

all im saying is your framing is wrong. I don't know why you're insisting on this sleight of hand of redescrbing the dynamics for some successful artists as "an industry wide reality."

Industry wide in difficulty and increased costs of touring. Tons of articles out there

that's totally fair: there is an industry-wide difficult in touring. my point was simply that this particular solution to that problem isn't industry-wide.

but trag makes a strong case for why market dynamics at a certain level of success (bands who tour arenas) would make this dynamic unavoidable.

Perhaps if bands at Pearl Jam’s level did tours that were more than 9 shows long, the tours would be more cost effective.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:Wait. Destroyer is touring? I thought it was Dan Bejar solo. Crap.

yeah mate. my back is so utterly fucked that i will likely miss it. in evanston at space

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Chris_H_2 wrote:Wait. Destroyer is touring? I thought it was Dan Bejar solo. Crap.

yeah mate. my back is so utterly fucked that i will likely miss it. in evanston at space

so what does “destroyer (solo)” mean?

Sorry about your back. That sucks.

Someone should do a Twitter "Best of the Pit" like they do "Best of Reddit". Shit is a little unhinged... still.

For the first time in my fandom - I actually maybe feel bad for the Jamily. If pj really kept those sections closest to the stage for premium tickets and shoved the fan club behind that.....

Well g dangit I think I might finally have a gripe with the band

Strat wrote:For the first time in my fandom - I actually maybe feel bad for the Jamily. If pj really kept those sections closest to the stage for premium tickets and shoved the fan club behind that.....

Well g dangit I think I might finally have a gripe with the band

I’m sure Ed’s to the point where if Springsteen does it, then it’s ok for Pearl Jam to do it.

I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?

Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?

Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.

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Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?

Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.

I'll translate the discontent over seating allocations to lawyer speak:

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Chris_H_2 wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?

Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.

I'll translate the discontent over seating allocations to lawyer speak:

but where's the fun in not bitching? it's what we do best.

Why you aren’t not now bitching

(Or something like that)

Fanboy Bammer post.

Ha. The toxicity of the Pearl Jam fan base is slowly closing in on Star Wars fans.

is there a more under-sexed fanbase in rock n roll than pearl jam's army of wma blackshirts?

We are sending a note to all Ten Club reserved seat ticket holders.

We apologize for the confusion and extra time it has taken to complete Ten Club’s presale. What we initially believed to be one issue affecting five shows turned out to be two separate issues - one originating from Ticketmaster and the second from Ten Club - affecting Ten Club seniority-based seating assignments across all nine shows. This had no impact on who got tickets, but did affect where those ticket holders’ seats were assigned. Based on this updated information, we now know the first attempt to fix these issues wasn’t sufficient. We remain fully committed to making things right.

In the coming days, Ten Club and Ticketmaster will be working on a solution to reassign seats to their final proper seniority based order. For some of you this will be a second reassignment. Tickets will not show in your Ticketmaster account until all seating assignments are finalized. You’ll be notified of any changes to your seating assignment in the next week. You will not lose your tickets and Friday’s Verified Fan on sale will not impact your seats.

We also want to address fan frustration about Ten Club tickets being located in higher levels of the venues compared to prior tours. We are committed to getting more inventory into the hands of Ten Club members and the only way to add more tickets is to go higher up. As a result of this additional inventory, we were able to allocate more tickets to Ten Club members than on any previous arena tour.

We want to reassure you that if you received an email confirmation, you have tickets to the show. We apologize that you may not know exactly where your seats will be located yet.

We are grateful for the Ten Club community and striving to do our best for you. Thank you for your patience.

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