Red Mosquito

15showsandcounting wrote:I wish they would continue this story. I liked how Marty said it wasn't their problem or whatever. It would be cool to have different detectives make it their problem and finish off those damn Tuttles.

not the black guys

the last scene:

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psychobain wrote:something i found over IMDB

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I hate to spoil this for all you guys but you need to do some research on the actual book the yellow king and on Corcosa and the entire H.P. Lovecraft world.

The yellow king author was an influence on lovecraft.

Corcosa is a city on a planet in another universe, its a universe that if we visited would instantly drive us insane, (so would seeing the play "The Yellow King").

The only way to access this other universe is through ancient incantations, occult activity and performing abominations which twist our reality to the point that a gateway opens, that gateway would lead to that other universe.

What Rust saw was that gateway, chances are you have to be a bit clairvoyant to even sense it but Rust is a fairly deep and "sensitive" (as in clairvoyant) character.

I also know that the writer is ok with you thinking its not real, in fact he would prefer most people think it was a hallucination of Rusts, the "reality" of the show is that Rust saw a portal to another dimension, created from sheer pain, terror and horror beyond normal human experience but the writer knows that the underlying supernatural references might turn off the hardcore "detective" type TV watchers, in other words he wants the skeptics to remain skeptical but wants to tip the hat to the sci fi/horror lovers out there, the ones that know better.

Btw, all these ideas were also used by Clive Barker when he made Hellraiser, the idea that pain was a whole other dimension and that we could access that dimension by creating abominations, in hellraisers case it was the lament configuration, in the True Detectives case it was the occult torture and killing of people, same ideas.

So is this supposed to be this guy's take on what the show is all about? And why did he totally ignore Rust's monologue at the end, describing everything he saw & felt?

I never spend enough time on this part of the board, but I would also like to add that this show was fucking excellent start to finish. It made me a McConaughey believer and I couldn't stand him for years. Now I actually want to seek out movies he's done recently (Mud, Dallas Buyers).

I wish the series would have been about 2 episodes longer, but I was pleasantly surprised by the rather optimistic ending. This one rivals Boardwalk Empire now as my fav ongoing show--Sopranos being my all time fav, but truthfully the last season has not aged well at all, especially after watching a show of TD's caliber...

Even with its shorter length per storyline I'd put True Detective up against any TV of the last couple decades

DeLima wrote:Even with its shorter length per storyline I'd put True Detective up against any TV of the last couple decades

I would put it right below Broadchurch.

turned2black wrote:

DeLima wrote:Even with its shorter length per storyline I'd put True Detective up against any TV of the last couple decades

I would put it right below Broadchurch.

never heard of it. it's good? worth a download?

I still like the series as a whole, but the last episode was a huge disappointment.

Captain Termite wrote:I still like the series as a whole, but the last episode was a huge disappointment.

DeLima wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:I still like the series as a whole, but the last episode was a huge disappointment.

Captain Termite wrote:I still like the series as a whole, but the last episode was a huge disappointment.

Captain Termite wrote:

DeLima wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:I still like the series as a whole, but the last episode was a huge disappointment.

what weren't you into about it? did you want more explanation of the conspiracy or more supernatural stuff? those were the most common complaints, it seems

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I didn't expect (or really want) any supernatural stuff.

But I didn't really like the choices they made with the plot. I would have liked either more explanation or the same amount of explanation (or even less) done in a different way.

I thought the chase scene was somewhat spoiled by hokey-ness (the lawnmower man seemingly being able to throw his voice, etc.).

I didn't like how the concepts of "You have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes. Not again" from the last episode were seemingly thrown aside.

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I loved what they made Carcosa look like. And I liked how they chose to resolve the character of Rust (although I'm not sure they executed it that well, compared to the rest of the series).

Overall, I liked the series and am looking forward to a re-watch in a couple of months.

Captain Termite wrote:*** SPOILERS IN THIS POST ***

I didn't expect (or really want) any supernatural stuff.

But I didn't really like the choices they made with the plot. I would have liked either more explanation or the same amount of explanation (or even less) done in a different way.

I thought the chase scene was somewhat spoiled by hokey-ness (the lawnmower man seemingly being able to throw his voice, etc.).

I didn't like how the concepts of "You have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes. Not again" from the last episode were seemingly thrown aside.

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I loved what they made Carcosa look like. And I liked how they chose to resolve the character of Rust (although I'm not sure they executed it that well, compared to the rest of the series).

Overall, I liked the series and am looking forward to a re-watch in a couple of months.

interesting. i thought the "you have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes" concepts were front and centre the whole time. these guys went into carcosa themselves because they acknowledged their debt and wouldn't avert their eyes, no matter what their other failings were. and they came out with somewhat more hope because they went through the storm, not around it.

i liked rust's character resolution but i hear about errol's overvoice during the chase being a bit hokey.

I wasn't a huge fan of Marty's "Oh well, I guess important people just get away with stuff" comment/attitude. I guess that video didn't disturb him as much as he let on.

is the idea that they literally only got errol, or that they got at least some of the other participants in the psycho cult too? errol's sisterwife was taken alive, so i thought the implication was that they got some other people at least.

DeLima wrote:is the idea that they literally only got errol, or that they got at least some of the other participants in the psycho cult too? errol's sisterwife was taken alive, so i thought the implication was that they got some other people at least.

If I remember correctly they showed or we heard a news clip saying, "Police officials say their is no truth to the rumor that the cult was connected to Senator Tuttle." Or something to that effect.

interesting. i thought the "you have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes" concepts were front and centre the whole time. these guys went into carcosa themselves...

I meant in the hospital scenes.

I guess they could consider their debt as paid by killing Erroll and (presumably) getting the investigation re-opened.

Captain Termite wrote:

interesting. i thought the "you have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes" concepts were front and centre the whole time. these guys went into carcosa themselves...

I meant in the hospital scenes.

I guess they could consider their debt as paid by killing Erroll and (presumably) getting the investigation re-opened.

my take was they were able to have the conversations they did at the end of series because they had paid their debt (finding dora lange's killer) by refusing to avert their eyes when everybody else chose to.

DeLima wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

interesting. i thought the "you have a debt" and "I won't avert my eyes" concepts were front and centre the whole time. these guys went into carcosa themselves...

I meant in the hospital scenes.

I guess they could consider their debt as paid by killing Erroll and (presumably) getting the investigation re-opened.

my take was they were able to have the conversations they did at the end of series because they had paid their debt (finding dora lange's killer) by refusing to avert their eyes when everybody else chose to.

I can buy that.