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Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:03 pm
by verb_to_trust
durdencommatyler wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:Biden’s pandering in picking a woman VP candidate should go full yard. If he doesn’t pick a black woman then he’s really just a nutless wonder.
Interesting that you call it pandering. Go further on that, please.
I’m not going further on that. I’m not the one running for office and I’m not out canvassing for support for a politician.
Oh, okay. I just thought since you were the one that said it, you might, you know, have a thought or two about it.
What's there to think about? You don't think mandating a woman is pandering to voters? It can be pandering and also the right thing to do by the way.
Tell me why the word "pandering" is the best word choice.
Because Joe feels it's the best way to obtain the power he desires? Do you think politicians are just genuine people Joey?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:04 pm
by epilogue
verb_to_trust wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:pepperwhiteMFC wrote:Biden’s pandering in picking a woman VP candidate should go full yard. If he doesn’t pick a black woman then he’s really just a nutless wonder.
Interesting that you call it pandering. Go further on that, please.
I’m not going further on that. I’m not the one running for office and I’m not out canvassing for support for a politician.
Oh, okay. I just thought since you were the one that said it, you might, you know, have a thought or two about it.
What's there to think about? You don't think mandating a woman is pandering to voters? It can be pandering and also the right thing to do by the way.
Tell me why the word "pandering" is the best word choice.
Because Joe feels it's the best way to obtain the power he desires? Do you think politicians are just genuine people Joey?
Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:09 pm
by verb_to_trust
What other word is there to use? He's targeting a group of voters his team has decided would be very pleased with him so long as he picks a woman VP.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:10 pm
by McParadigm
Historically, we talk about VP picks in terms of which of the candidate’s weaknesses the choice will address, or how this new addition’s politics will influence or be influenced by joining the team. A quick search suggests that even when Trump picked Pence, we didn’t use the word “pandering” to describe the overt courting of the religious vote.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:11 pm
by verb_to_trust
That's exactly what Trump was doing though
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:21 pm
by elliseamos
verb_to_trust wrote:That's exactly what Trump was doing though
Motion to adjourn?!
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:31 pm
by Mickey
Hahaha this sucks man
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:43 pm
by verb_to_trust
Welp, take her out of Joes binder of women
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:12 pm
by Rob
Pandering that increases your vote tally is probably a good idea. I think that’s what verb is saying?
The polling suggests Warren is the best choice. I posted something 2 pages ago. She boosts his chances more than the other (8?) top contenders.
Personally, and I’ve said this before, maybe he should pick a Hispanic woman. As McP stated, the VP should address weaknesses, and Biden isn’t that weak with white & black people. He’s weak with Hispanics and young people. Given that Hispanics are the youngest minority group on average, you’d potentially be addressing two big weaknesses.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:37 pm
by Mickey
Rob wrote:Pandering that increases your vote tally is probably a good idea. I think that’s what verb is saying?
The polling suggests Warren is the best choice. I posted something 2 pages ago. She boosts his chances more than the other (8?) top contenders.
Personally, and I’ve said this before, maybe he should pick a Hispanic woman. As McP stated, the VP should address weaknesses, and Biden isn’t that weak with white & black people. He’s weak with Hispanics and young people. Given that Hispanics are the youngest minority group on average, you’d potentially be addressing two big weaknesses.
Yeah that's exactly why I've been trying to drive at with the black woman thing--not that it wouldn't be great, but that the options on the table don't change the map very much.
I think pandering is technically the correct word for what is definitely a calculated political choice. I also think, as McP noted, that the way it was originally used here carried the implication that there's pandering on one hand (with Abrams or Kamala) and then there are other choices, which smacks of a certain bias.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:17 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:Rob wrote:Pandering that increases your vote tally is probably a good idea. I think that’s what verb is saying?
The polling suggests Warren is the best choice. I posted something 2 pages ago. She boosts his chances more than the other (8?) top contenders.
Personally, and I’ve said this before, maybe he should pick a Hispanic woman. As McP stated, the VP should address weaknesses, and Biden isn’t that weak with white & black people. He’s weak with Hispanics and young people. Given that Hispanics are the youngest minority group on average, you’d potentially be addressing two big weaknesses.
Yeah that's exactly why I've been trying to drive at with the black woman thing--not that it wouldn't be great, but that the options on the table don't change the map very much.
I think pandering is technically the correct word for what is definitely a calculated political choice.
I also think, as McP noted, that the way it was originally used here carried the implication that there's pandering on one hand (with Abrams or Kamala) and then there are other choices, which smacks of a certain bias.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:09 pm
by Norah
Mickey wrote:
Hahaha this sucks man
Yeah but how does this affect Uncle Dick and his deer stand?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:11 am
by elliseamos
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/28/pen ... ial-watch/
What were we saying about the current tenets of the GOP?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:54 am
by 96583UP
Biden should pick Oprah and seal the deal
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:55 am
by 96583UP
elliseamos wrote:https://theintercept.com/2020/05/28/pennsylvania-voter-rolls-purge-judicial-watch/
What were we saying about the current tenets of the GOP?
96583UP wrote:well at least the GOP continues to successfully execute it's disenfranchisement strategy
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 11:14 am
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:Biden should pick Oprah and seal the deal
I'm beginning to think Cait Jenner is the best choice.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 11:38 am
by wease
Michele and Oprah would win by a landslide.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:38 pm
by elliseamos
wease wrote:Michele and Oprah would win by a landslide.
mmhmm, you tell it, wease.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:03 pm
by JuanHamm
Is there any chance of Biden/Michelle Obama?
I think that would be a winner.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:13 pm
by doug rr