Green Habit wrote:A recent pet peeve of mine for this election is that the media narrative regarding the generational battle is the typically lazy Boomer v. Millennial, with Xers (as usual) lost in the mix. This article is one example, but in actually filling in the division lines from the image in that article, while Boomers aren't blameless, the generation that's really to blame for Trump are the Silents.
This steep climb on X is interesting. It might be informative to see that matched against income and education.
The steep climb starts with the 1970s babies, who largely came of age when Bill Clinton was president. I think that's your leading factor.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 4:43 pm
by Bi_3
Green Habit wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:A recent pet peeve of mine for this election is that the media narrative regarding the generational battle is the typically lazy Boomer v. Millennial, with Xers (as usual) lost in the mix. This article is one example, but in actually filling in the division lines from the image in that article, while Boomers aren't blameless, the generation that's really to blame for Trump are the Silents.
This steep climb on X is interesting. It might be informative to see that matched against income and education.
The steep climb starts with the 1970s babies, who largely came of age when Bill Clinton was president. I think that's your leading factor.
I wonder how it compares against other common assumptions... are Gen X trump supporters uneducated deplorables? Are they wealthy and looking to vote in their economic self-interest? Do they live in areas with lots of lead and asbestos? (my best guess)
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 4:51 pm
by Green Habit
Bi_3 wrote:I wonder how it compares against other common assumptions... are Gen X trump supporters uneducated deplorables? Are they wealthy and looking to vote in their economic self-interest? Do they live in areas with lots of lead and asbestos? (my best guess)
All three of those sound like reasonable factors to me.
It is not at all fair to blame the Silents for Trump. The youngest of them are in their seventies, so many of them are already dead and (compared to Boomers and Milennials) there weren't that many of them in the first place. Trump is the fault of the Boomers.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 12:12 am
by B
The full clip is brilliant.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 12:21 am
by Bi_3
The Argonaut wrote:It is not at all fair to blame the Silents for Trump. The youngest of them are in their seventies, so many of them are already dead and (compared to Boomers and Milennials) there weren't that many of them in the first place. Trump is the fault of the Boomers.
I feel like trump might actually be Gen X's fault.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:25 am
by McParadigm
I'm pretty certain Trump is just a result of our culture's continual moving away from the literate, reflective insight that is a base requirement for democracy.
A national culture built on titillating gossip, gleeful celebrity judgements, 30-second factoid news items, past glories-worshipping media, and the logic that you measure your intelligence by either how hard you root for "your team" or how you never believe anybody cannot, and will not, ever produce a society that is also capable of sustained democracy.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:43 am
by Monkey_Driven
McParadigm wrote:I'm pretty certain Trump is just a result of our culture's continual moving away from the literate, reflective insight that is a base requirement for democracy.
A national culture built on titillating gossip, gleeful celebrity judgements, 30-second factoid news items, past glories-worshipping media, and the logic that you measure your intelligence by either how hard you root for "your team" or how you never believe anybody cannot, and will not, ever produce a society that is also capable of sustained democracy.
Sadly yup.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:44 am
by 96583UP
Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:52 pm
by wease
My god. That Klepper clip is gold.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 3:23 pm
by Let's all laugh at Rangers
Trump will win. John McTernan is the Democrats campaign manager, he goes around the world doing this and loses every single one. UK, Australia, you name it. Every time he opens his mouth on telly it's not hard to see why. I hope I'm wrong though, I'm absolutely terrified.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 10:14 pm
by Jorge
“And if you’re not aware, drugs are a very, very big factor in what you’re watching. On television. At night."
Trump sounds like an old person who accidentally stumbled onto Adult Swim while channel surfing
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 10:25 pm
by Birds in Hell
Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:John McTernan is the Democrats campaign manager, he goes around the world doing this and loses every single one. UK, Australia, you name it. Every time he opens his mouth on telly it's not hard to see why. I hope I'm wrong though, I'm absolutely terrified.
McTernan is an incompetent loon but I don't believe he's involved in the Democrat campaign.
Come on brah. We have past the point where anything these people say should be shocking. They left reality long ago and are now living a in a make believe world where ignorance is social currency.