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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:19 pm
by Val
Lmdmusic wrote:Is it wishful thinking to hope for 2 or 3 , 30 second song clips over the next two weeks? Or just band members dancing in the observer?
We have no idea.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:24 pm
by DDWJMUVW
tragabigzanda wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:Wait, amp pedals?

I'd be truly shocked if they were using amp pedals (to achieve OD) and not going through actual tube amps. Maybe something with their signal chains using Wottman's equipment so that it sounds vastly different?

I really think you're hearing what was done in production/engineering/mixing and not recording.

In any event, it's nice to actually hear distorted guitars in a PJ song. First time since what, ST? I grew real tired of the bluesy crunch (and in some cases I could barely detect any semblance of overdrive). I mean, are there even guitars in Infallible? Sounds like a bunch of synths.
Idk man — I know the sound of tube gain distortion vs digital simulated distortion. There’s a synthetic quality to the consistency of breakup that happens with sims, and that’s fairly apparent on these.
Valid, but I've heard some pretty synthetic SOUNDING tones come from Mesa/Marshall tubes - bands I know who use them religiously (esp the former). Certain pop punk groups have a sound that's REALLY synthetic but are playing through MESA amps (early 2000s).

You could be right, but man that would be a head scratcher. I can't see Stone settling for amp sims/OD amp pedals played through a clean channel on a fender amp.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:26 pm
by Ms Harmless
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, i hate the guitars on LB, i really do. Only MYM and some moments on MFS maybe...Sirens or Yellow Moon, but overall everything sounds awful there.

That acoustic guitar in SW? jesus christ
I'm really curious (and nervous) about how our first acoustic guitars for this album will sound, I think that'll be pretty decisive

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:27 pm
by DDWJMUVW
Lmdmusic wrote:Is it wishful thinking to hope for 2 or 3 , 30 second song clips over the next two weeks? Or just band members dancing in the observer?
Once we didn't get any more clips after running within a few days I felt like they were going to follow the Gigaton method.

with 9 tracks left to reveal, they will start on the 10th with the observer again and there will be a new one each day until the 18th (that's 9 days).

Then the release on 4/19. Exactly what they did with Gig clips. It makes too much sense.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:33 pm
by EBowie
Having already heard 2 tracks out of 11, I don't want to hear anything else until release day. We're only 2 weeks away, I'll live. I've just never been one of those people who wants to open presents before Christmas.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:37 pm
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
DDWJMUVW wrote:Wait, amp pedals?

I'd be truly shocked if they were using amp pedals (to achieve OD) and not going through actual tube amps. Maybe something with their signal chains using Wottman's equipment so that it sounds vastly different?

I really think you're hearing what was done in production/engineering/mixing and not recording.

In any event, it's nice to actually hear distorted guitars in a PJ song. First time since what, ST? I grew real tired of the bluesy crunch (and in some cases I could barely detect any semblance of overdrive). I mean, are there even guitars in Infallible? Sounds like a bunch of synths.
I don't think it's emulator pedals, I think it's software. They may have amps in the room being mic'd for reference but there's something happening on the software side that is having an impact aesthetically that *feels* like a pure software based amp emulation.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:41 pm
by Tj
I'm reading this and listening to Boston. Those were the days.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:46 pm
by Tj
To think that debut Boston alum was recorded in the the guitarist basement with homemade gear.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 2:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
Watt if they didn't even use real guitars?

Watt if they used an electronic drum kit?

Watt if the whole album is AI? maybe this is their "best work" because none of them had to show up

maybe they're dead

RIP

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:02 pm
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
Ms Harmless wrote:Watt if they didn't even use real guitars?

Watt if they used an electronic drum kit?

Watt if the whole album is AI? maybe this is their "best work" because none of them had to show up

maybe they're dead

RIP

LOL

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:02 pm
by Strat
I will say, dont love the tone of Mikes Solo in DM. That never sounded authentically/typical Mike.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:04 pm
by Anders
tragabigzanda wrote:Like, you could say “how might you improve on the sound of Yield?” Then I’d point to records like Wildflowers or Zuma as being a couple quick examples of records that live in the same sonic ballpark, but have more articulate presentation of the drums, more depth to the soundstage, things like that
Not big on Zuma personally, even down to how it sounds, but Wildflowers is a great pick. Has a glorious sound.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:05 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I'm hopeful there will be a leak sometime next week.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:07 pm
by Strat
Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm hopeful there will be a leak sometime next week.
Bu$hleaker

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:08 pm
by VinylGuy
Ms Harmless wrote:Watt if they didn't even use real guitars?

Watt if they used an electronic drum kit?

Watt if the whole album is AI? maybe this is their "best work" because none of them had to show up

maybe they're dead

RIP
:lol:

Dude if DM is AI, well done

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:09 pm
by RockPusher
Strat wrote:I will say, dont love the tone of Mikes Solo in DM. That never sounded authentically/typical Mike.
a) that may be the thing I like most in the song

b) it is so absolutely authentic Mike with the way the notes are being played

c) what even is “typical”? Mike’s best solos are unexpected in some way. This one lets you know immediately with that screeeeeetch that comes out of the drum fill that it’s gonna rip

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:09 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:10 pm
by Strat
RockPusher wrote:
Strat wrote:I will say, dont love the tone of Mikes Solo in DM. That never sounded authentically/typical Mike.
a) that may be the thing I like most in the song

b) it is so absolutely authentic Mike with the way the notes are being played

c) what even is “typical”? Mike’s best solos are unexpected in some way. This one lets you know immediately with that screeeeeetch that comes out of the drum fill that it’s gonna rip
Im glad you like. Im talking tone. Sounds thin to me.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:11 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Tj wrote:To think that debut Boston alum was recorded in the the guitarist basement with homemade gear.
:heartbeat:
*wayside

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 3:12 pm
by RockPusher
Strat wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
Strat wrote:I will say, dont love the tone of Mikes Solo in DM. That never sounded authentically/typical Mike.
a) that may be the thing I like most in the song

b) it is so absolutely authentic Mike with the way the notes are being played

c) what even is “typical”? Mike’s best solos are unexpected in some way. This one lets you know immediately with that screeeeeetch that comes out of the drum fill that it’s gonna rip
Im glad you like. Im talking tone. Sounds thin to me.
Yeah, I know. I was addressing tone with point a. I love it, no matter how much weight it may need to put on.