Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu April 04, 2024 6:56 pm
the stone interview was pretty great but I think we can all agree the knac review was better
You could learn a thing or two.stip wrote:the stone interview was pretty great but I think we can all agree the knac review was better
Lesson 1: Make every name and title bold and italicstip wrote:many a thing
I dunno, when I think of Pearl Jam guitars, "chonky" more than "chunky"Mike wrote:Lesson 1: Make every name and title bold and italicstip wrote:many a thing
Lesson 2: Use the word chunky more often
Homework: Use lesson 1 and 2 in a little review about Dark Matter and Running
I'm a few pages behind, so forgive me if already covered, but it's (maybe?) worth noting both Stone and Mike used Fender Tonemaster digital modelling amps (essentially amp sim software sitting in a speaker cabinet) for their clean tones on the Gigaton-era shows, most of which took place either during or entirely after the sessions for the new record.tragabigzanda wrote:Idk man — I know the sound of tube gain distortion vs digital simulated distortion. There’s a synthetic quality to the consistency of breakup that happens with sims, and that’s fairly apparent on these.DDWJMUVW wrote:Wait, amp pedals?
I'd be truly shocked if they were using amp pedals (to achieve OD) and not going through actual tube amps. Maybe something with their signal chains using Wottman's equipment so that it sounds vastly different?
I really think you're hearing what was done in production/engineering/mixing and not recording.
In any event, it's nice to actually hear distorted guitars in a PJ song. First time since what, ST? I grew real tired of the bluesy crunch (and in some cases I could barely detect any semblance of overdrive). I mean, are there even guitars in Infallible? Sounds like a bunch of synths.
I think this could be the case. That said, Wotman's recording space seems pretty small and I expect getting well-separated, defined guitar recordings in that environment would be challenging - also no amps in sight:Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:I don't think it's emulator pedals, I think it's software. They may have amps in the room being mic'd for reference but there's something happening on the software side that is having an impact aesthetically that *feels* like a pure software based amp emulation.

I’m forgetting this one already. Where is it?Anders wrote:Stone’s interview has been the best article about the album yet.
https://www.spin.com/2024/03/spin-inter ... e-gossard/Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:I’m forgetting this one already. Where is it?Anders wrote:Stone’s interview has been the best article about the album yet.
Long-time lurker with a few posts but I thought this video would be relevant to the guitar tone discussion.tragabigzanda wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm a few pages behind, so forgive me if already covered, but it's (maybe?) worth noting both Stone and Mike used Fender Tonemaster digital modelling amps (essentially amp sim software sitting in a speaker cabinet) for their clean tones on the Gigaton-era shows, most of which took place either during or entirely after the sessions for the new record.tragabigzanda wrote:Idk man — I know the sound of tube gain distortion vs digital simulated distortion. There’s a synthetic quality to the consistency of breakup that happens with sims, and that’s fairly apparent on these.DDWJMUVW wrote:Wait, amp pedals?
I'd be truly shocked if they were using amp pedals (to achieve OD) and not going through actual tube amps. Maybe something with their signal chains using Wottman's equipment so that it sounds vastly different?
I really think you're hearing what was done in production/engineering/mixing and not recording.
In any event, it's nice to actually hear distorted guitars in a PJ song. First time since what, ST? I grew real tired of the bluesy crunch (and in some cases I could barely detect any semblance of overdrive). I mean, are there even guitars in Infallible? Sounds like a bunch of synths.
I think this could be the case. That said, Wotman's recording space seems pretty small and I expect getting well-separated, defined guitar recordings in that environment would be challenging - also no amps in sight:Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:I don't think it's emulator pedals, I think it's software. They may have amps in the room being mic'd for reference but there's something happening on the software side that is having an impact aesthetically that *feels* like a pure software based amp emulation.
I bet that fucker has his guitars wired direct into ProTools with headphone monitors feeding the musicians the amp sims.
what happened to "PJ sucks now"tragabigzanda wrote:he's like a plastic surgeon for corporate rock music and our favorite band is his white whale client