Monkey_Driven wrote:I like the subtle and not so subtle references to past seasons in this episode:
- Tyrion's line to Jon about "all dwarves are bastards in their father's eyes" being in the letter
- Arya's line to Nymeria echoing her line to Ned
- Hot Pie!
- Sam telling Jorah about his father
- Ned's statue in the crypt and Littlefinger talking about the delivery of his bones
- Varys playing both sides with Dany in season one
Agreed.
This was a really solid episode. A lot of fun, and moved the plot along nicely.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:10 am
by stip
I'll go back and read the thread in a minute, but strong episode. They took away some of Dany's overwhelming advantage, and sacrificing the sand snakes to Euron went a long way to establishing him as a credible threat. And the reveal of his ship coming out of the night fog was one of the best shots of the series
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:13 am
by stip
Monkey_Driven wrote:I really enjoyed Sam finding out Jorah's last name and how it played out.
me too.
The transitions they've made from gross citadel stuff to food have been excellent
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:29 am
by Revelator
Anders wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:I like the subtle and not so subtle references to past seasons in this episode:
- Tyrion's line to Jon about "all dwarves are bastards in their father's eyes" being in the letter
- Arya's line to Nymeria echoing her line to Ned
- Hot Pie!
- Sam telling Jorah about his father
- Ned's statue in the crypt and Littlefinger talking about the delivery of his bones
- Varys playing both sides with Dany in season one
Agreed.
This was a really solid episode. A lot of fun, and moved the plot along nicely.
I enjoyed this one a lot, way more than last week; there was a tension that started with Dany's confrontation with Varys that seemed to last through all of the story angles till the end. It's got me itching for next week's episode. Arya stole this episode IMO
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:41 am
by BurtReynolds
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I feel like the whole White Walker thing is a red herring. Or that the real climax won't be about them. Something just doesn't add up.
For a while it looked like they were setting up a deeper exploration, like we were going to find out that they're not just ice zombies. But I don't know if there's time left.
I heard a pretty cool Bran theory that makes me rethink this.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 1:48 am
by Monkey_Driven
BurtReynolds wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I feel like the whole White Walker thing is a red herring. Or that the real climax won't be about them. Something just doesn't add up.
For a while it looked like they were setting up a deeper exploration, like we were going to find out that they're not just ice zombies. But I don't know if there's time left.
I heard a pretty cool Bran theory that makes me rethink this.
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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 5:02 am
by epilogue
Both episodes this season were great.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 5:03 am
by BurtReynolds
Monkey_Driven wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I feel like the whole White Walker thing is a red herring. Or that the real climax won't be about them. Something just doesn't add up.
For a while it looked like they were setting up a deeper exploration, like we were going to find out that they're not just ice zombies. But I don't know if there's time left.
She's invading with a foreign army and dragons. The army is made up of barbarian hordes (dothraki) and former slaves (who still live basically slave lives). She is doing this on a claim that she has a right on this land, that she has never lived in.
Yesterday, we could see how she handled Lord Varys. The dialogue between them seemed like one of those things that will become true. That one day he will tell her that she is acting against the people, and she will burn him alive.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 7:19 am
by BurtReynolds
Anders wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I'm convinced that given the themes of the book and Martin's beliefs, the ultimate villain here is...
She's invading with a foreign army and dragons. The army is made up of barbarian hordes (dothraki) and former slaves (who still live basically slave lives). She is doing this on a claim that she has a right on this land, that she has never lived in.
Yesterday, we could see how she handled Lord Varys. The dialogue between them seemed like one of those things that will become true. That one day he will tell her that she is acting against the people, and she will burn him alive.
And the Targaryens have always been brutal, cruel and warlike conquerors. She's already committed horrible atrocities and murder in her quest for her "birthright". But I wouldn't even say she's evil, she started out good and innocent. But she has been forced down this path from the beginning. When she does something good, she is punished. She's learned precisely all the wrong lessons.
Another thing: She has all the advantages. She has a mountain of dragonglass, dragons, fire and a vast horde. The White Walkers are impossibly outmatched. What threat can they be?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 10:22 am
by dimejinky99
The dire wolf doesn't recognise her because she's faceless - hell yeah!!
to bran the builder and him becoming the night king fits a lot of the GoT themes so well
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:13 pm
by Anders
I'm not big on time travel in general, so hope we avoid it.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:37 pm
by lowlight79
I wonder if Cersei will mimic the mad king's madness and burn one of those sand snakes alive while the other has to reach for a sword. But I am guessing she'll probably just give them to the mountain.
