Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Tue July 25, 2017 12:45 pm
Game changer. Game...changer.stip wrote:What if Bran is
- Spoiler: show
Game changer. Game...changer.stip wrote:What if Bran is
- Spoiler: show
I thought there was only one sand snake left and her mother.lowlight79 wrote:I wonder if Cersei will mimic the mad king's madness and burn one of those sand snakes alive while the other has to reach for a sword. But I am guessing she'll probably just give them to the mountain.
Ok sand snake and Mama snake.Anders wrote:I thought there was only one sand snake left and her mother.lowlight79 wrote:I wonder if Cersei will mimic the mad king's madness and burn one of those sand snakes alive while the other has to reach for a sword. But I am guessing she'll probably just give them to the mountain.
Yes, Ellaria Sand the ruler of Dorne.lowlight79 wrote:Ok sand snake and Mama snake.Anders wrote:I thought there was only one sand snake left and her mother.lowlight79 wrote:I wonder if Cersei will mimic the mad king's madness and burn one of those sand snakes alive while the other has to reach for a sword. But I am guessing she'll probably just give them to the mountain.
Anders wrote:I can see Theon getting some minor redemption as well. Maybe he will kill Euron in the end?
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Simple Torture wrote:At what point does redemption become irrelevant, though? Theon is a child-killer and left the last of his family for dead--even if he kills Euron or saves someone important, are we all going to say, "Oh, Theon, you were alright in the end"?
Not that kind of redemption. I like Euron better than many of his opponents, and a lot of the characters are child killers incl Daenarys. I am talking about for Theon personally. A last victory for him. Last Greyjoy standing.Simple Torture wrote:At what point does redemption become irrelevant, though? Theon is a child-killer and left the last of his family for dead--even if he kills Euron or saves someone important, are we all going to say, "Oh, Theon, you were alright in the end"?
And the books have a lot more tangents and characters, and have not gotten as far as the series.tragabigzanda wrote:When I first started reading this series, there was a sense that every character thread would somehow converge to bring everything to its logical, explosive conclusion. But as the show has unfolded, I'm feeling like some of these characters and stories are less important, and could perhaps have been done away with entirely. If all we get out of Theon and Euron's story is A) Theon is forever a broken man and B) Euron is hungry for power; and then if they fight each other and one or both of them die; wouldn't that be pretty stupid?TremorJam wrote:Anders wrote:I can see Theon getting some minor redemption as well. Maybe he will kill Euron in the end?
I really hope so. Euron annoys the shit out of me.
I really hate the Euron storyline.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Euron is cooler in the books. He also has a brother named Victarion. Their relationship is complex, but much more interesting than anything in the show.tragabigzanda wrote:Yeah, and I'm curious if Euron is more compelling in the books? I stopped after ASOS. But I can't stand his story on the tv show -- it just seems like another diversion from the characters I care about, and he's so over the top. After Ramsey Bolton and Cersei Lannister, Euron doesn't seem especially bad or scary; just like a garden variety bad guy who's got too much screen time.Anders wrote:And the books have a lot more tangents and characters, and have not gotten as far as the series.tragabigzanda wrote:When I first started reading this series, there was a sense that every character thread would somehow converge to bring everything to its logical, explosive conclusion. But as the show has unfolded, I'm feeling like some of these characters and stories are less important, and could perhaps have been done away with entirely. If all we get out of Theon and Euron's story is A) Theon is forever a broken man and B) Euron is hungry for power; and then if they fight each other and one or both of them die; wouldn't that be pretty stupid?TremorJam wrote:Anders wrote:I can see Theon getting some minor redemption as well. Maybe he will kill Euron in the end?
I really hope so. Euron annoys the shit out of me.
I really hate the Euron storyline.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
What trag said is exactly the same issues I have with how he was introduced in the show. I wish they'd brought him in sooner, because I'd seen book readers mention him before and was excited to see him in the show. Now that he's here, I just want him dead. He is going to give Cersei a chance to even the odds against Dany, though.Monkey_Driven wrote:Euron is cooler in the books. He also has a brother named Victarion. Their relationship is complex, but much more interesting than anything in the show.tragabigzanda wrote:Yeah, and I'm curious if Euron is more compelling in the books? I stopped after ASOS. But I can't stand his story on the tv show -- it just seems like another diversion from the characters I care about, and he's so over the top. After Ramsey Bolton and Cersei Lannister, Euron doesn't seem especially bad or scary; just like a garden variety bad guy who's got too much screen time.Anders wrote:And the books have a lot more tangents and characters, and have not gotten as far as the series.tragabigzanda wrote:When I first started reading this series, there was a sense that every character thread would somehow converge to bring everything to its logical, explosive conclusion. But as the show has unfolded, I'm feeling like some of these characters and stories are less important, and could perhaps have been done away with entirely. If all we get out of Theon and Euron's story is A) Theon is forever a broken man and B) Euron is hungry for power; and then if they fight each other and one or both of them die; wouldn't that be pretty stupid?TremorJam wrote:Anders wrote:I can see Theon getting some minor redemption as well. Maybe he will kill Euron in the end?
I really hope so. Euron annoys the shit out of me.
I really hate the Euron storyline.