Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 1:35 pm
Several conservative types are already taking the "still no proof of collusion of the campaign with Russia but if there was that doesn't mean it was illegal" spin.
The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. during his father's presidential bid last summer said members of the campaign were looking for dirt on the Clintons.
"It's quite possible that maybe they were longing for such information," lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya told NBC News Tuesday. "They wanted it so badly."
Her account is the latest twist surrounding her June 9, 2016, meeting with the younger Trump, Jared Kushner and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.


BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
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With the help of an incompetent white house. Kindly put.Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
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This is the first evidence of any merit that they knowingly took info, but it will probably amount to nothing. The Russia card has been overplayed to the whole country's detriment.
It still baffles me that people think this isn't a big deal.Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
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This is the first evidence of any merit that they knowingly took info, but it will probably amount to nothing. The Russia card has been overplayed to the whole country's detriment.
It would have been, but Russia accusations have been normalized to be bullshit (see nearly all of the last 200 pages of this thread). This is going to have to lead to something seriously illegal to amount to any significant change in the opinion of the public at large, and I don't see that from that email, but had this come out last year.. I don't think we would be in this bad place as a nation.Orpheus wrote:It still baffles me that people think this isn't a big deal.Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
Lol
This is the first evidence of any merit that they knowingly took info, but it will probably amount to nothing. The Russia card has been overplayed to the whole country's detriment.
White House Denies Any Ties to United States
In a fiercely defiant statement on Tuesday, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, denied that any member of the White House staff has ever worked "in any way, shape, or form" for the benefit of the United States.
Angrily addressing the press corps, Spicer said that any allegations that members of the Trump Administration have ever acted in concert or collusion with the United States are "unequivocally false."
"At no time during the transition or afterward did any member of the Trump team have meetings, conversations, or any other contacts that furthered the interests of the United States of America," Spicer said. "In the thousands of communications that took place, the United States never came up even once."
Drawing a stark contrast with the Administration of former President Barack Obama, Spicer said that many members of Obama’s staff were “clearly and flagrantly working for the United States government at all times.”
“President Trump has put an end to that,” he said.
In closing, Spicer said that the recent effort to pass the Republican health-care bill should silence “once and for all” those trying to link the Trump Administration to the United States government. "If you look at the interaction between the White House and congressional Republicans, there is absolutely no evidence of coördination,” he said.
I'm reminded of the story of the boy who cried "anonymous sources report..."Bi_3 wrote:It would have been, but Russia accusations have been normalized to be bullshit (see nearly all of the last 200 pages of this thread). This is going to have to lead to something seriously illegal to amount to any significant change in the opinion of the public at large, and I don't see that from that email, but had this come out last year.. I don't think we would be in this bad place as a nation.Orpheus wrote:It still baffles me that people think this isn't a big deal.Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
Lol
This is the first evidence of any merit that they knowingly took info, but it will probably amount to nothing. The Russia card has been overplayed to the whole country's detriment.

It's funny because it's true.B wrote:White House Denies Any Ties to United States
In a fiercely defiant statement on Tuesday, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, denied that any member of the White House staff has ever worked "in any way, shape, or form" for the benefit of the United States.
Angrily addressing the press corps, Spicer said that any allegations that members of the Trump Administration have ever acted in concert or collusion with the United States are "unequivocally false."
"At no time during the transition or afterward did any member of the Trump team have meetings, conversations, or any other contacts that furthered the interests of the United States of America," Spicer said. "In the thousands of communications that took place, the United States never came up even once."
Drawing a stark contrast with the Administration of former President Barack Obama, Spicer said that many members of Obama’s staff were “clearly and flagrantly working for the United States government at all times.”
“President Trump has put an end to that,” he said.
In closing, Spicer said that the recent effort to pass the Republican health-care bill should silence “once and for all” those trying to link the Trump Administration to the United States government. "If you look at the interaction between the White House and congressional Republicans, there is absolutely no evidence of coördination,” he said.
Tribalism; if it helps "your side," everything's in bounds. And I'm not really sure there's anyway that goes back in the bottle, and Trump is nothing if not an accelerant to that kind of atmosphere.Orpheus wrote:It still baffles me that people think this isn't a big deal.Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Oh man! Trump's going down for sure this time!
Lol
This is the first evidence of any merit that they knowingly took info, but it will probably amount to nothing. The Russia card has been overplayed to the whole country's detriment.
bart wrote:We need to come up with a rule about mixing metaphors.
This is a bad thing? Jesus, we're not going to have a government soon.B wrote:White House Denies Any Ties to United States
In a fiercely defiant statement on Tuesday, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, denied that any member of the White House staff has ever worked "in any way, shape, or form" for the benefit of the United States.
Angrily addressing the press corps, Spicer said that any allegations that members of the Trump Administration have ever acted in concert or collusion with the United States are "unequivocally false."
"At no time during the transition or afterward did any member of the Trump team have meetings, conversations, or any other contacts that furthered the interests of the United States of America," Spicer said. "In the thousands of communications that took place, the United States never came up even once."
Drawing a stark contrast with the Administration of former President Barack Obama, Spicer said that many members of Obama’s staff were “clearly and flagrantly working for the United States government at all times.”
“President Trump has put an end to that,” he said.
In closing, Spicer said that the recent effort to pass the Republican health-care bill should silence “once and for all” those trying to link the Trump Administration to the United States government. "If you look at the interaction between the White House and congressional Republicans, there is absolutely no evidence of coördination,” he said.