the sound on their first album can pretty much be cured by turning up the bass disproportionately and listening to it loud
BOLA actually sounds really muddy at times, feels like it's all over the place. it's not as easy as just 'turning it up' ... Ashes in the Fall is a clear exception, however, and one of the finest tracks they've ever made
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:01 am
by stip
my 6 year old loves Renegades of Fun. I dont want to correct her
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:01 am
by Norah
Guerilla Radio might be the most overrated RATM song.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:02 am
by 96583UP
VinylGuy wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'll argue all day about which is number one, but there is no argument that Renegades is always number 4
I never even think bout Renegades when i talk about RATM.
me too, it's just not a rage album in my head and i tend to associate it with some last second breakup consolation prize
morello's guitar work is pretty bland in most tracks on that album, like a caricature of a morello rage album... Street Walking Man being probably the most interesting
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:04 am
by 96583UP
cutuphalfdead wrote:Guerilla Radio might be the most overrated RATM song.
its got radio single structure - pretty formulaic - i'm used to it at this point but the solo actually just sounds terrible on the album (kazoo harmonica) but live the effect he uses there is waay more ballsy
they often F up the intro live though... like there is too much re-feed and they get lost in the timing
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:05 am
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:12 am
by bart
I really don’t get the praise for their rhythm section. They’re the Van Halen of the 90s - exceptional singer and guitarist plus a couple of perfectly fine guys on bass and drums.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 3:02 am
by VinylGuy
bart wrote:I really don’t get the praise for their rhythm section. They’re the Van Halen of the 90s - exceptional singer and guitarist plus a couple of perfectly fine guys on bass and drums.
Wilk and Tm C are the main reason why i listen to Rage.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 3:10 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 3:17 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:
bart wrote:I really don’t get the praise for their rhythm section. They’re the Van Halen of the 90s - exceptional singer and guitarist plus a couple of perfectly fine guys on bass and drums.
If you’re looking for Dick-measuring levels of technical proficiency, then maybe I guess? But for feel/vibe, I’m not sure there’s a better rock rhythm section in the last 30 years.
Hell yeah, man. They fucking groove.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 4:59 am
by bodysnatcher
cutuphalfdead wrote:Guerilla Radio might be the most overrated RATM song.
Agreed. Never really enjoyed that song.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 5:55 am
by Bammer
VinylGuy wrote:
bart wrote:I really don’t get the praise for their rhythm section. They’re the Van Halen of the 90s - exceptional singer and guitarist plus a couple of perfectly fine guys on bass and drums.
Wilk and Tm C are the main reason why i listen to Rage.
Wilk is extremely basic. Which is why I feel I can emulate him. Not a knock, it works fine. He provides exactly what the songs need.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 5:56 am
by Bammer
Bammer wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
bart wrote:I really don’t get the praise for their rhythm section. They’re the Van Halen of the 90s - exceptional singer and guitarist plus a couple of perfectly fine guys on bass and drums.
Wilk and Tm C are the main reason why i listen to Rage.
Wilk is extremely basic. Which is why I feel I can emulate him. Not a knock, it works fine. He provides exactly what the songs need.
Wake Up
Sleep Now in the Fire
Ashes in the Fall
Killing in the Name
Renegades of Funk
Testify
Bulls on Parade
No Shelter
Street Fighting Man
Know Your Enemy
probably. might be some things on Renegades or EE ahead of those bottom 2[/quote]
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 10:49 am
by Anders
The top 16 in the tournament are probably their 16 best, or close to it.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 11:02 am
by lecherouslittlestump
How do you rank the RATM and Audioslave records? In my mind, RATM is a poor man's Audioslave. Audioslave took all that was infantile and simplistic about RATM and crafted it into something beautiful.
My rankings:
Audioslave self titled
Revelations
Out Of Exile
Renegades
Battle of LA
RATM self titled
Evil Empire [distant last]
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 11:17 am
by Anders
1. Rage Against the Machine (1992)
2. Evil Empire
3. Audioslave (2002)
4. Out of Exile
5. The Battle of Los Angeles
6. Renegades
7. Revelations
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 11:23 am
by Anders
Not a knock on Chris. Soundgarden's top albums and even Euphoria Morning and Temple Of The Dog would be right up there if we included his career. Superunknown on top.
Re: Rage Against The Machine
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 11:29 am
by liebzz
I am not the hugest RATM fan, though in large part because it’s just been so long and I sort of moved on. To rank these together I would place them over Audioslave because 1) I just didn’t listen to Audioslave maybe enough times, 2) RATM’s sound just seemed to work better with Zach De La Rocha than with Chris Cornell:
1) Rage Against the Machine
2) Battle of Los Angeles
3) Evil Empire
4) Audioslave
5) Renegades
6) Out of Exile
7) Revelations