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Take the Long Way is severely underrated. Might be my favorite on Gigaton.

daft twat wrote:Take the Long Way is severely underrated. Might be my favorite on Gigaton.

It’s top 3 or 4 for me on Gigaton but on the Matt Cameron appreciation album TTLW is treading water.

ive been listening to TTLW and get it back a lot lately..


(in a playlist with some outtakes..)

Sloppy Dupree wrote:Somebody’s gotta convince that Matt is better than Jack or Dave A.

Can someone explain what's so special about Dave A drumming?
His drumming on Vitalogy is the most uninspired drumming i've ever heard from any rock drummer, there's no interesting drum lines, no fills, nothing. Just the same beat all over again and again and again. Meh
How you even compare this
https://voca.ro/1kyioJGIzTDp

and this
https://voca.ro/1lpboMsBmWDy

I got the impression that most people prefer dave a drumming because of its simplicity, and don't like Matt's fancy drumming

taffer wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:Somebody’s gotta convince that Matt is better than Jack or Dave A.

Can someone explain what's so special about Dave A drumming?
His drumming on Vitalogy is the most uninspired drumming i've ever heard from any rock drummer, there's no interesting drum lines, no fills, nothing. Just the same beat all over again and again and again. Meh
How you even compare this
https://voca.ro/1kyioJGIzTDp

and this
https://voca.ro/1lpboMsBmWDy

I got the impression that most people prefer dave a drumming because of its simplicity, and don't like Matt's fancy drumming

Oh man, don't get them started!
This place has a pretty awful Dave A fetish.

Not me! I'm a MattCamfan4lyfe

They’re no Dave K, that’s for sure.

I prefer Dave A on first three PJ album material. After that, give me Matt. And I’m more of an all around fan of Matt than I am DA.

Buby wrote: Oh man, don't get them started!
This place has a pretty awful Dave A fetish.

Buby wrote:

taffer wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:Somebody’s gotta convince that Matt is better than Jack or Dave A.

Can someone explain what's so special about Dave A drumming?
His drumming on Vitalogy is the most uninspired drumming i've ever heard from any rock drummer, there's no interesting drum lines, no fills, nothing. Just the same beat all over again and again and again. Meh
How you even compare this
https://voca.ro/1kyioJGIzTDp

and this
https://voca.ro/1lpboMsBmWDy

I got the impression that most people prefer dave a drumming because of its simplicity, and don't like Matt's fancy drumming

Oh man, don't get them started!
This place has a pretty awful Dave A fetish.

it is entirely possible I have Dave A at the top of the list because his albums produced so many of my favorite songs

The drummer thing is more about your favourite era of PJ than it is about the drummers themselves.

zeb wrote:The drummer thing is more about your favourite era of PJ than it is about the drummers themselves.

Good take.

Ten is awesome, of course. But their best? Nah.
Not even top 3. And it's over-played AF.

Loved Vs when it came out, love it today.
But from Vitalogy onwards is where PJ's creativity really shines.
Also from No Code onwards they bust open their range.

I think they're a much more interesting sounding band today.

zeb wrote:The drummer thing is more about your favourite era of PJ than it is about the drummers themselves.

And threads specifically about Matt Cameron always turn into I Don't Get His Songs and by the way Bring Back Dave A.

All of their drummers have been talented, Krusen through to Cameron.

I prefer Matt to all of them due to my strong Soundgarden/Cameron bias, but I think his contribution to PJ musically has been stronger than all the others. More people would no doubt agree with that if he had also played on Vitalogy or No Code.

I also prefer Matt, but i love all of them and what they brought in each era.

Always a matter of personal taste

In retrospect, part of why I relish the Dave A era so much likely has to do with the groove-orientation and Ed's much better sounding voice

but I love Jack era

And Matt C is one of the most special musical people in my personal planet

But I prefer Matt with Soundgarden. My PJ brain is wired more toward the Dave A-style and the adjustment the band went through with increasing Matt influence (perhaps peaking with Avocado) is not one that makes my brain that happy.

but as a live drummer, I doubt any of the others could handle PJ's needs physically at this point (which is ultimately what led to Jack stepping away)

I don't know how they can tour at all at this age honestly. it's very impressive. And it sounds like Matt has very strong positive professionalism influence on the band which is likely a key to its longevity in the post-98 period.

Spoiler: show

bring back Dave A

i will die never having heard evacuation live

Its too late guys, we shouldve appreciate him more when he was around! You ruined it!.

Malloy wrote:i will die never having heard evacuation live