Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:12 pm
You'll have to use adult numbers if you want to talk about specific cases.
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Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:14 pm
you can point at a fat chick Tree and tell us you're overcome with compassion because she might die early, but you actually have zero idea what is or isn't going to happen to her
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:16 pm
well then it's lucky that I don't, and I never did; I really never want to experience the Marvellous Mickey running rhetorical rings around me on the InternetMickey wrote:You'll have to use adult numbers if you want to talk about specific cases.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:16 pm
i'm sure doctors have scientific reasons for being concerned about a patient's weight.. but maybe i'm crazy
i still think this is a separate topic from 'fat acceptance'
there are plenty of health issues people deal with that aren't so obvious, and it's not OK to shame people for any of them
i still think this is a separate topic from 'fat acceptance'
there are plenty of health issues people deal with that aren't so obvious, and it's not OK to shame people for any of them
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:18 pm
you're not crazy, you've just never experienced institutional / medical ableism with a side of fatphobiatree_ wrote:i'm sure doctors have scientific reasons for being concerned about a patient's weight.. but maybe i'm crazy
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:19 pm
Like obesity, this is not something you can control through your individual choices.Ms Harmless wrote:well then it's lucky that I don't, and I never did; I really never want to experience the Marvellous Mickey running rhetorical rings around me on the InternetMickey wrote:You'll have to use adult numbers if you want to talk about specific cases.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:24 pm
in theory I could, because I could have all of my thoughts, feelings and claims to know something comply with yoursMickey wrote:Like obesity, this is not something you can control through your individual choices.Ms Harmless wrote:well then it's lucky that I don't, and I never did; I really never want to experience the Marvellous Mickey running rhetorical rings around me on the InternetMickey wrote:You'll have to use adult numbers if you want to talk about specific cases.
unless what you're saying is you'd still find another way to be an annoying little shit, which, I agree, I cannot control
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 8:29 pm
are one's ability to control their weight and science-based medical treatment not mutually exclusive?Ms Harmless wrote:you're not crazy, you've just never experienced institutional / medical ableism with a side of fatphobiatree_ wrote:i'm sure doctors have scientific reasons for being concerned about a patient's weight.. but maybe i'm crazy
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 10:19 pm
I had a salad for lunch today.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Tue August 16, 2022 10:23 pm
I can’t wait for feast season.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 4:42 pm
Ms Harmless wrote:"people are fat"Mickey wrote:That is not what mutually exclusive means.Ms Harmless wrote:being fat and unhealthy are like being fat and having brown hair
yes they can occur together, but it's never true (hence my "mutually exclusive") that they inherently cause each other, by definition; and that's what fat acceptance is about
you can be fat, you can be thin, you can have brown, black, blonde or blue hair, be 7 feet or two feet tall, but it's never true that any of these things *are the inherent cause* of ill health as a whole *or* that they will necessarily appear together
"people are unhealthy"
these statements mean two different things and are not inherently contingent on each other
that was my point, stop being a fucking jerk
#healthy
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 5:15 pm
This is exactly the kind of second account that macphisto would make.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 6:02 pm
The logo on that shirt doesn’t look like the letter U at all.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 6:08 pm
Mickey wrote:No that's literally what mutually exclusive means.Ms Harmless wrote:"mutually exclusive" doesn't preclude the intersection of the two, sometimes; it means that even though the circles can cross, they are two different circles
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 7:03 pm
The dictionary is fatphobic.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 7:52 pm
At my annual physical my doctor points to BMI. I go to this website every once in awhile to make sure I stay in the healthy range:
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educat ... micalc.htm
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educat ... micalc.htm
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 8:40 pm
BMI klaxon
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 8:44 pm
I don't see why it's a problem to discuss BMI. It's a starting point.
"Your BMI is over 30, but you have no other health conditions. Yay!"
"Your BMI is over 30, maybe if you brought it down we could cut back on your blood pressure medication and your cholesterol would come down a bit."
"Your BMI is over 30, but you have no other health conditions. Yay!"
"Your BMI is over 30, maybe if you brought it down we could cut back on your blood pressure medication and your cholesterol would come down a bit."
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 8:50 pm
BMI is a pretty crude heuristic, especially for women.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Wed August 17, 2022 8:52 pm
When did scientific knowledge become the enemy?