Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Mon March 28, 2022 8:02 pm
there are no stakes for anyone in any of this
Who said thisMs Harmless wrote:I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged
I've explained, I just haven't explained to your satisfaction; I think I'll be OK with thattree_ wrote:You still haven't explained how you got to where you did from the very simple joke/compliment. And I've spelled out to you how I got to "probably innocuous" very clearly. Still baffled, not because I'm stupid, but because you haven't explained.Ms Harmless wrote:a big strong man is not a "victimizer" for slapping another big strong man on the cheek; those powers are equaltree_ wrote:You simply haven't explained yourself. You think people in power are constantly out to oppress and victimize vulnerable people, even when you don't have evidence. It's an unhealthy, unproductive worldview, and innocent (sometimes hilarious) people are getting physically assaulted by the likes of Will Smith, in the name of love, nonetheless, and somehow you've come out of this on the side of the victimizer. It's baffling.Ms Harmless wrote:I don't give a shit how confused you are; things aren't wrong because they confuse you, Treetree_ wrote:no... it was a simple, dumb joke, which can most easily be interpreted as a compliment.. and you're reading it as lashing out at the bald, black, female community.. i'm just confused how you got thereMs Harmless wrote:having the simplest and most lazily thought-through interpretation and extrapolation of the text possible is not the same thingtree_ wrote:yesMs Harmless wrote:you mean how you used the actual text spoken?tree_ wrote:yeah, by using the actual text spoken, instead of grasping at strawsspike wrote:whoever said ten pages ago that the joke was racially loaded, please explain yourself.
oh hiBirds in Hell wrote:Who said thisMs Harmless wrote:I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged
can we call today's debate club a draw and go back to making fun of this stupid thing that happened?Ms Harmless wrote:I've explained, I just haven't explained to your satisfaction; I think I'll be OK with thattree_ wrote:You still haven't explained how you got to where you did from the very simple joke/compliment. And I've spelled out to you how I got to "probably innocuous" very clearly. Still baffled, not because I'm stupid, but because you haven't explained.Ms Harmless wrote:a big strong man is not a "victimizer" for slapping another big strong man on the cheek; those powers are equaltree_ wrote:You simply haven't explained yourself. You think people in power are constantly out to oppress and victimize vulnerable people, even when you don't have evidence. It's an unhealthy, unproductive worldview, and innocent (sometimes hilarious) people are getting physically assaulted by the likes of Will Smith, in the name of love, nonetheless, and somehow you've come out of this on the side of the victimizer. It's baffling.Ms Harmless wrote:I don't give a shit how confused you are; things aren't wrong because they confuse you, Treetree_ wrote:no... it was a simple, dumb joke, which can most easily be interpreted as a compliment.. and you're reading it as lashing out at the bald, black, female community.. i'm just confused how you got thereMs Harmless wrote:having the simplest and most lazily thought-through interpretation and extrapolation of the text possible is not the same thingtree_ wrote:yesMs Harmless wrote:you mean how you used the actual text spoken?tree_ wrote:yeah, by using the actual text spoken, instead of grasping at strawsspike wrote:whoever said ten pages ago that the joke was racially loaded, please explain yourself.
If you don't want to explain why you have your opinion or how you got there, that's fine, but it will continue to make zero sense.Ms Harmless wrote:either I'm minimising the power of a smack on the cheek, or others are minimising the power of a "harmless" joke
I've taken a position that makes sense to me and been dragged for it, it's fine, but even if you think the joke wasn't harmful, I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged
You keep saying things like this, but never actually explain.Ms Harmless wrote:I've explained, I just haven't explained to your satisfaction; I think I'll be OK with thattree_ wrote:You still haven't explained how you got to where you did from the very simple joke/compliment. And I've spelled out to you how I got to "probably innocuous" very clearly. Still baffled, not because I'm stupid, but because you haven't explained.Ms Harmless wrote:a big strong man is not a "victimizer" for slapping another big strong man on the cheek; those powers are equaltree_ wrote:You simply haven't explained yourself. You think people in power are constantly out to oppress and victimize vulnerable people, even when you don't have evidence. It's an unhealthy, unproductive worldview, and innocent (sometimes hilarious) people are getting physically assaulted by the likes of Will Smith, in the name of love, nonetheless, and somehow you've come out of this on the side of the victimizer. It's baffling.Ms Harmless wrote:I don't give a shit how confused you are; things aren't wrong because they confuse you, Treetree_ wrote:no... it was a simple, dumb joke, which can most easily be interpreted as a compliment.. and you're reading it as lashing out at the bald, black, female community.. i'm just confused how you got thereMs Harmless wrote:having the simplest and most lazily thought-through interpretation and extrapolation of the text possible is not the same thingtree_ wrote:yesMs Harmless wrote:you mean how you used the actual text spoken?tree_ wrote:yeah, by using the actual text spoken, instead of grasping at strawsspike wrote:whoever said ten pages ago that the joke was racially loaded, please explain yourself.
I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
I don't need it to make sense to you; this isn't the first conversation in which you've concluded that I'm a monster raving looney and it won't be the lasttree_ wrote:If you don't want to explain why you have your opinion or how you got there, that's fine, but it will continue to make zero sense.Ms Harmless wrote:either I'm minimising the power of a smack on the cheek, or others are minimising the power of a "harmless" joke
I've taken a position that makes sense to me and been dragged for it, it's fine, but even if you think the joke wasn't harmful, I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged
It can't possibly make sense to anyone. It's just.. "I feel this way because I feel this way"Ms Harmless wrote:I don't need it to make sense to you; this isn't the first conversation in which you've concluded that I'm a monster raving looney and it won't be the lasttree_ wrote:If you don't want to explain why you have your opinion or how you got there, that's fine, but it will continue to make zero sense.Ms Harmless wrote:either I'm minimising the power of a smack on the cheek, or others are minimising the power of a "harmless" joke
I've taken a position that makes sense to me and been dragged for it, it's fine, but even if you think the joke wasn't harmful, I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged
fucking treetree_ wrote:I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
so you want me to say "things like this" again? cos I cantree_ wrote:You keep saying things like this, but never actually explain.Ms Harmless wrote:I've explained, I just haven't explained to your satisfaction; I think I'll be OK with thattree_ wrote:You still haven't explained how you got to where you did from the very simple joke/compliment. And I've spelled out to you how I got to "probably innocuous" very clearly. Still baffled, not because I'm stupid, but because you haven't explained.Ms Harmless wrote:a big strong man is not a "victimizer" for slapping another big strong man on the cheek; those powers are equaltree_ wrote:You simply haven't explained yourself. You think people in power are constantly out to oppress and victimize vulnerable people, even when you don't have evidence. It's an unhealthy, unproductive worldview, and innocent (sometimes hilarious) people are getting physically assaulted by the likes of Will Smith, in the name of love, nonetheless, and somehow you've come out of this on the side of the victimizer. It's baffling.Ms Harmless wrote:I don't give a shit how confused you are; things aren't wrong because they confuse you, Treetree_ wrote:no... it was a simple, dumb joke, which can most easily be interpreted as a compliment.. and you're reading it as lashing out at the bald, black, female community.. i'm just confused how you got thereMs Harmless wrote:having the simplest and most lazily thought-through interpretation and extrapolation of the text possible is not the same thingtree_ wrote:yesMs Harmless wrote:you mean how you used the actual text spoken?tree_ wrote:yeah, by using the actual text spoken, instead of grasping at strawsspike wrote:whoever said ten pages ago that the joke was racially loaded, please explain yourself.
I'm serious! Just watch it and actually listen to what he said. And he's baffled by the boos.washing machine wrote:fucking treetree_ wrote:I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
Not necessary.Ms Harmless wrote:so you want me to say "things like this" again? cos I cantree_ wrote:You keep saying things like this, but never actually explain.Ms Harmless wrote:I've explained, I just haven't explained to your satisfaction; I think I'll be OK with thattree_ wrote:You still haven't explained how you got to where you did from the very simple joke/compliment. And I've spelled out to you how I got to "probably innocuous" very clearly. Still baffled, not because I'm stupid, but because you haven't explained.Ms Harmless wrote:a big strong man is not a "victimizer" for slapping another big strong man on the cheek; those powers are equaltree_ wrote:You simply haven't explained yourself. You think people in power are constantly out to oppress and victimize vulnerable people, even when you don't have evidence. It's an unhealthy, unproductive worldview, and innocent (sometimes hilarious) people are getting physically assaulted by the likes of Will Smith, in the name of love, nonetheless, and somehow you've come out of this on the side of the victimizer. It's baffling.Ms Harmless wrote:I don't give a shit how confused you are; things aren't wrong because they confuse you, Treetree_ wrote:no... it was a simple, dumb joke, which can most easily be interpreted as a compliment.. and you're reading it as lashing out at the bald, black, female community.. i'm just confused how you got thereMs Harmless wrote:having the simplest and most lazily thought-through interpretation and extrapolation of the text possible is not the same thingtree_ wrote:yesMs Harmless wrote:you mean how you used the actual text spoken?tree_ wrote:yeah, by using the actual text spoken, instead of grasping at strawsspike wrote:whoever said ten pages ago that the joke was racially loaded, please explain yourself.
it certainly wasn't an insult (assuming rock didn't know about the alopecia).washing machine wrote:fucking treetree_ wrote:I am more and more unable to see how it wasn't a compliment, the more times I see it.warehouse wrote:tree pretending the joke was a compliment is the best part of this whole thing.
I maintain that CODA winning best picture might actually be funnier than the slap.Biff Pocoroba wrote:Back to the actual awards for a moment.
It used to be a rarity that the Best Director and Best Picture didn’t match but that’s happened much more often over the past twenty years or so.
it makes sense to metree_ wrote:It can't possibly make sense to anyone. It's just.. "I feel this way because I feel this way"Ms Harmless wrote:I don't need it to make sense to you; this isn't the first conversation in which you've concluded that I'm a monster raving looney and it won't be the lasttree_ wrote:If you don't want to explain why you have your opinion or how you got there, that's fine, but it will continue to make zero sense.Ms Harmless wrote:either I'm minimising the power of a smack on the cheek, or others are minimising the power of a "harmless" joke
I've taken a position that makes sense to me and been dragged for it, it's fine, but even if you think the joke wasn't harmful, I can't for the life of me imagine how you've walked away from this thinking Chris fucking Rock is irreparably damaged