Red Mosquito

Before the season my 12 playoff teams were: KC-NWE-CIN-IND-PIT-BUF / CAR-GB-SEA-PHI-ARI-ATL

I still think it could play out exactly like that given a bunch of breaks. I did pick DEN to have a winning record but thought they wouldn't have enough wins for a WC, so I wasn't necessarily on the "Denver will suck donkey balls!" train that some people were.

I'd give Denver a 2% chance of missing the playoffs. You like the over or the under?

durdencommatyler wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Man, back in the day the diva receivers at least produced. ODB and Bryant need to quit being pussies and start doing shit on the field before acting like shit

Uhh whut? ODB is probably the most productive WR in his first two years since Randy Moss. And Dez has like 6,000 yards and 60 TDs to his name. I think they've earned the right if production is what we're going on.

I meant this season. They both seem more chirpy this season and neither are producing

Fine, whatever. But how many of those divas have won championships?

I'll wait.

I'm not sure what you are arguing. I didn't say anything about rings, just production. TO, Moss, Ocho, Keyshawn (who won a championship with the Bucs, btw) all produced. To Nate's point, ODB and Dez have in the past, but again, this year they aren't and they seem more vocal than ever.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Man, back in the day the diva receivers at least produced. ODB and Bryant need to quit being pussies and start doing shit on the field before acting like shit

Uhh whut? ODB is probably the most productive WR in his first two years since Randy Moss. And Dez has like 6,000 yards and 60 TDs to his name. I think they've earned the right if production is what we're going on.

I meant this season. They both seem more chirpy this season and neither are producing

Fine, whatever. But how many of those divas have won championships?

I'll wait.

I'm not sure what you are arguing. I didn't say anything about rings, just production. TO, Moss, Ocho, Keyshawn (who won a championship with the Bucs, btw) all produced. To Nate's point, ODB and Dez have in the past, but again, this year they aren't and they seem more vocal than ever.

I was jumping into the argument on your side, Ruddo. My point is that none of the divas have rings. So they really have no goddamn right being divas at all. Win something and then you can be a whiny baby. These super talents don't seem to understand that its a team game and big part of their talent comes in being a decoy or sucking up defenders so that the offense can move underneath. Sometimes they are best at making sure other guys get the ball. Basically, I'm totally on your side and my comment was directed toward anyone disagreeing with you.

Except for Keyshawn.

I actually don't think of him as "one of those guys." But, yes, except for Keyshawn.

durdencommatyler wrote:I actually don't think of him as "one of those guys." But, yes, except for Keyshawn.

Yeah, he was a little "diva-ey" with NY, but he was more focused I think in Tampa. At least until the year after the Super Bowl when Gruden benched him lol

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I actually don't think of him as "one of those guys." But, yes, except for Keyshawn.

Yeah, he was a little "diva-ey" with NY, but he was more focused I think in Tampa. At least until the year after the Super Bowl when Gruden benched him lol

Oh right! I totally forgot about all of that. Yeah, he definitely counts, then. But it's interesting, as you say, that he won a ring when he was more focused and less of a diva. The power of example.

bears' kevin white headed to IR

Yeah. Poor guy.

He's busting hard

verb_to_trust wrote:He's busting hard

Eddie Royal is doing pretty well though right? I think Jeffery is dinged up too?

verb_to_trust wrote:He's busting hard

Freak injuries do not a bust make. He was playing well.

he's no amari cooper

I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

Kaius wrote:I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

wrong

Kaius wrote:I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

wut?

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Kaius wrote:I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

wrong

Just my opinion. I think Cooper is obviously a better player right now, but I think White has a higher ceiling

Kaius wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Kaius wrote:I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

wrong

Just my opinion. I think Cooper is obviously a better player right now, but I think White has a higher ceiling

i'd be more concerned about him hurting his leg on the floor

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Kaius wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Kaius wrote:I would take Kevin White over Amari Cooper. I just think he's a more special talent. Alas, he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

wrong

Just my opinion. I think Cooper is obviously a better player right now, but I think White has a higher ceiling

i'd be more concerned about him hurting his leg on the floor

Injuries happen. It's a violent game.