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Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Mon April 09, 2018 9:02 am
by thespaniard
Of The Girl

- have you considered a repeat of Sendai 2003-02-28 from The Guests Are So Refined?

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Mon April 09, 2018 1:36 pm
by darth_vedder
thespaniard wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?

It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.

For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 12:36 am
by ridleybradout
darth_vedder wrote:
thespaniard wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?

It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.

For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 1:19 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
If we're gonna use a European "Of The Girl", Prague is the one I like best.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 1:28 am
by ridleybradout
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:If we're gonna use a European "Of The Girl", Prague is the one I like best.
Will take a listen. I really like Lisbon myself.

Benaroya is still definitely in the mix too.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:14 am
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.

How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:34 am
by wease
ridleybradout wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
thespaniard wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?

It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.

For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too :thumbsup:
That’s my vote.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:35 am
by wease
ridleybradout wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:What about Sad and Education from the Vic Theater vault show?
Education has a lyrical flub and Sad has nothing on the San Fran 06 version.

Imagine if Sad had been included on Binaural and was a regular on the 2000 tour. I would give my left testicle to hear 2000-era PJ play this song live.
And I would give my right one.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:56 pm
by ridleybradout
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.

How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?
Thanks for the kind words :)

These PJ projects are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the hours of joy WCT is responsible for :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 3:00 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
ridleybradout wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.

How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?
Thanks for the kind words :)

These PJ projects are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the hours of joy WCT is responsible for :thumbsup:
:heartbeat:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 5:06 am
by ridleybradout
wease wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
thespaniard wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?

It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.

For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too :thumbsup:
That’s my vote.
I just discovered the Boston 2000-08-30 version which is even better :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 1:20 pm
by darth_vedder
ridleybradout wrote:
wease wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
thespaniard wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?

It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.

For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too :thumbsup:
That’s my vote.
I just discovered the Boston 2000-08-30 version which is even better :thumbsup:
Is that the right date? I was going to listen to it and don't see it on the setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pearl-ja ... 620a8.html

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 1:28 pm
by darth_vedder
Nevermind, I found it... they did 2 nights there and played Of The Girl night 1 on 8/29/2000.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 6:56 pm
by Teeeeeekay
Rival from Boston I 2000 came on and it sounded pretty great.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 8:45 pm
by ridleybradout
darth_vedder wrote:Nevermind, I found it... they did 2 nights there and played Of The Girl night 1 on 8/29/2000.
I was talking about Boston Light Years, not OTG...

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 2:30 am
by Norah
Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:13 am
by ridleybradout
cutuphalfdead wrote:Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.
And they’re going to feature multiple times on this Binaural live disc :thumbsup:

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:16 am
by Norah
ridleybradout wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.
And they’re going to feature multiple times on this Binaural live disc :thumbsup:
8-)

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:20 am
by ridleybradout
Anyone else listened to the contenders for Education?

Lexington 2016 has a great energy, if one minor lyric flub (‘flags are waving’).

Columbia 2008 is nice but has switched lyric (in the second line - own ‘occasion’ instead of ‘education’)

Boston 2008 seems to have correct lyrics but doesn’t sound as confident musically, though that might be influenced by the inferior Brett-less mixing (which Columbia also suffers from).

All other versions have major lyric/musical errors unfortunately.

Thoughts?

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ

Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 1:08 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
ridleybradout wrote:Anyone else listened to the contenders for Education?

Lexington 2016 has a great energy, if one minor lyric flub (‘flags are waving’).

Columbia 2008 is nice but has switched lyric (in the second line - own ‘occasion’ instead of ‘education’)

Boston 2008 seems to have correct lyrics but doesn’t sound as confident musically, though that might be influenced by the inferior Brett-less mixing (which Columbia also suffers from).

All other versions have major lyric/musical errors unfortunately.

Thoughts?
I like the Columbia one, and I don't think I've ever noticed the lyric flub before. But if you are going for perfection, I guess it isn't it. Still, a good version.