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Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Mon April 09, 2018 9:02 am
by thespaniard
Of The Girl
- have you considered a repeat of Sendai 2003-02-28 from The Guests Are So Refined?
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Mon April 09, 2018 1:36 pm
by darth_vedder
thespaniard wrote:ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?
It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.
For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 12:36 am
by ridleybradout
darth_vedder wrote:thespaniard wrote:ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?
It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.
For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 1:19 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
If we're gonna use a European "Of The Girl", Prague is the one I like best.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 1:28 am
by ridleybradout
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:If we're gonna use a European "Of The Girl", Prague is the one I like best.
Will take a listen. I really like Lisbon myself.
Benaroya is still definitely in the mix too.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:14 am
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.
How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:34 am
by wease
ridleybradout wrote:darth_vedder wrote:thespaniard wrote:ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?
It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.
For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too

That’s my vote.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:35 am
by wease
ridleybradout wrote:darth_vedder wrote:What about Sad and Education from the Vic Theater vault show?
Education has a lyrical flub and Sad has nothing on the San Fran 06 version.
Imagine if Sad had been included on Binaural and was a regular on the 2000 tour. I would give my left testicle to hear 2000-era PJ play this song live.
And I would give my right one.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Tue April 10, 2018 10:56 pm
by ridleybradout
Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.
How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?
Thanks for the kind words
These PJ projects are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the hours of joy WCT is responsible for

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 3:00 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
ridleybradout wrote:Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, have no fear, Ridley is on this
The greatest RMer? His work here (along with WCT) is a master class is in turning a private passion into hours of joy for strangers.
How can we get those two to host a couple of hours on PJ radio?
Thanks for the kind words
These PJ projects are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the hours of joy WCT is responsible for


Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 5:06 am
by ridleybradout
wease wrote:ridleybradout wrote:darth_vedder wrote:thespaniard wrote:ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?
It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.
For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too

That’s my vote.
I just discovered the Boston 2000-08-30 version which is even better

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 1:20 pm
by darth_vedder
ridleybradout wrote:wease wrote:ridleybradout wrote:darth_vedder wrote:thespaniard wrote:ridleybradout wrote:Does anyone have any other suggestions for Light Years besides Pinkpop 2000?
It's a universally well-regarded version, with a nice unique ad lib outro, however I don't think I should pick it without at least comparing to some of the better versions from the US 2000 tour...
I always liked the version on the 2000 Tour Sampler promo disc... Columbus, OH - 8/21/00
That's a good one and worthy contender for sure.
For more of a dark horse candidate, the version from San Sebastian is pretty good. That show gets overlooked because there are a lot of flubs, but Of The Girl is great. Milan, Italy is a good one too, as is the version from Katowice 2.
Thanks guys, I'll check these out. Seattle 2000-11-06 is pretty good too

That’s my vote.
I just discovered the Boston 2000-08-30 version which is even better

Is that the right date? I was going to listen to it and don't see it on the setlist:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pearl-ja ... 620a8.html
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 1:28 pm
by darth_vedder
Nevermind, I found it... they did 2 nights there and played Of The Girl night 1 on 8/29/2000.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 6:56 pm
by Teeeeeekay
Rival from Boston I 2000 came on and it sounded pretty great.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Wed April 11, 2018 8:45 pm
by ridleybradout
darth_vedder wrote:Nevermind, I found it... they did 2 nights there and played Of The Girl night 1 on 8/29/2000.
I was talking about Boston Light Years, not OTG...
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 2:30 am
by Norah
Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:13 am
by ridleybradout
cutuphalfdead wrote:Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.
And they’re going to feature multiple times on this Binaural live disc

Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:16 am
by Norah
ridleybradout wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Those two Boston 2000 shows were fucking awesome. My first two PJ shows.
And they’re going to feature multiple times on this Binaural live disc


Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 3:20 am
by ridleybradout
Anyone else listened to the contenders for Education?
Lexington 2016 has a great energy, if one minor lyric flub (‘flags are waving’).
Columbia 2008 is nice but has switched lyric (in the second line - own ‘occasion’ instead of ‘education’)
Boston 2008 seems to have correct lyrics but doesn’t sound as confident musically, though that might be influenced by the inferior Brett-less mixing (which Columbia also suffers from).
All other versions have major lyric/musical errors unfortunately.
Thoughts?
Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
Posted: Thu April 12, 2018 1:08 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
ridleybradout wrote:Anyone else listened to the contenders for Education?
Lexington 2016 has a great energy, if one minor lyric flub (‘flags are waving’).
Columbia 2008 is nice but has switched lyric (in the second line - own ‘occasion’ instead of ‘education’)
Boston 2008 seems to have correct lyrics but doesn’t sound as confident musically, though that might be influenced by the inferior Brett-less mixing (which Columbia also suffers from).
All other versions have major lyric/musical errors unfortunately.
Thoughts?
I like the Columbia one, and I don't think I've ever noticed the lyric flub before. But if you are going for perfection, I guess it isn't it. Still, a good version.