Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
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“I saw a buddy of mine, a fellow filmmaker friend, who is making this movie that is so f***ing wonderful. And I saw a chunk of it. And it was… spellbinding. This is the only way I can describe it. It’s like, I love movies and sometimes I over praise them and s**t, but this is the only way I can describe this: it was like – not figuratively, literally – being transported to the fountain of youth. And having the fountain of youth take me back to 1977. First time I saw a picture called Star Wars. I can’t say much more.” - Kevin Smith
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dimejinky99 wrote:stip wrote:that doesn't bother me, in theory. To be clear, the prequels basically executed nothing well. They are just terrible---to the point that I like the original trilogy less because they made more cognizant of its flaws. But the dark side references would have been find in the hands of a more talented writer/director.dimejinky99 wrote:stip wrote:I retract my earlier comment. That is an irredeemably stupid pointSimple Torture wrote:The weirdest part isn't that Jedis aren't allowed to love people, it's that Portman's character said that she couldn't love anyone because she was a senator.
any more stupid than the Sith referring to themselves as 'the dark side'? surely that would be an unspoken and understood position they held....they sound like a pathetically small gang of teenage hoodlums referring to themselves as 'the dark side'..yet there it is in the films..
PJ expert you might be...grasping for meaning in a galaxy that has none??
the sith is an organization. Aren't the dark and light side philosophies?
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When gone am I
The last of the Jedi will you be
Pass on what you have learned
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Pal of mine once said Lucas f*ked up in a weird way. He imagined that last battle for Endor to be like the last battle in avatar. But all he got a as fluffy teddys He wanted happy meal toy royalties mainly though.
Nothing wrong or even unrealistic about the smallest among us toppling the greatest for the biggest change. Look at the lord of the rings.
Hobbits saved the world.
It's all about delivery though.
Just hope JJ manages to capture what Lucas did right. And he did a lot right too and gets no credit at all.
I mean here we are talking about it all still.
Look what he gave us.
Flawed? Yes. Fantastic?
Completely.
Pal of mine once said Lucas f*ked up in a weird way. He imagined that last battle for Endor to be like the last battle in avatar. But all he got a as fluffy teddys He wanted happy meal toy royalties mainly though.
Nothing wrong or even unrealistic about the smallest among us toppling the greatest for the biggest change. Look at the lord of the rings.
Hobbits saved the world.
It's all about delivery though.
Just hope JJ manages to capture what Lucas did right. And he did a lot right too and gets no credit at all.
I mean here we are talking about it all still.
Look what he gave us.
Flawed? Yes. Fantastic?
Completely.
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Jesus Christ he needs to calm the fuck down. Nerd culture is so saddimejinky99 wrote:“I saw a buddy of mine, a fellow filmmaker friend, who is making this movie that is so f***ing wonderful. And I saw a chunk of it. And it was… spellbinding. This is the only way I can describe it. It’s like, I love movies and sometimes I over praise them and s**t, but this is the only way I can describe this: it was like – not figuratively, literally – being transported to the fountain of youth. And having the fountain of youth take me back to 1977. First time I saw a picture called Star Wars. I can’t say much more.” - Kevin Smith
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it is my fervent hope that he is describing my first reaction
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Say what you like, return of the Jedi has the best soundtrack/score of all the films. Old new or yet to come.
But why the chief of the ewoks waves Lukes Lightsaber around when our merry band are tied up and yet never hits the on switch I'll never know.
But why the chief of the ewoks waves Lukes Lightsaber around when our merry band are tied up and yet never hits the on switch I'll never know.
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Finding rhapsodic joy in feeling infantilized seems very dubious
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Not end until my death it shall.cutuphalfdead wrote:I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls.stip wrote:I'm fine with that. Perhaps those sorts of attachments make it harder to use the force, but more likely you can have your galaxy's judges and peacekeepers in a position where personal and familial loyalties might make it harder to do the right thing
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Faster, more intense.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Finding rhapsodic joy in feeling infantilized seems very dubious
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lol that sounds like a typical LV post describing Kanye, or just anything he likes really.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Jesus Christ he needs to calm the fuck down. Nerd culture is so saddimejinky99 wrote:“I saw a buddy of mine, a fellow filmmaker friend, who is making this movie that is so f***ing wonderful. And I saw a chunk of it. And it was… spellbinding. This is the only way I can describe it. It’s like, I love movies and sometimes I over praise them and s**t, but this is the only way I can describe this: it was like – not figuratively, literally – being transported to the fountain of youth. And having the fountain of youth take me back to 1977. First time I saw a picture called Star Wars. I can’t say much more.” - Kevin Smith
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it's not infantilization. It's like the feeling of falling in love for the first time, again. its special in part because it should be impossibleLoathedVermin72 wrote:Finding rhapsodic joy in feeling infantilized seems very dubious
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Outside of physically hurting another person maliciously, there are few things I understand as little as shitting on someone's joy. Especially for something as innocuous as a goddamn movie. Blech. It just feels so shitty to me.
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I think the source of one's joy can be a valid thing to question. Fucking kids brings pedophiles great joy, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be condemned.durdencommatyler wrote:Outside of physically hurting another person maliciously, there are few things I understand as little as shitting on someone's joy. Especially for something as innocuous as a goddamn movie. Blech. It just feels so shitty to me.
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Which is why I put in that caveat about maliciously hurting someone. I'm obviously not talking about pedophilia.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think the source of one's joy can be a valid thing to question. Fucking kids brings pedophiles great joy, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be condemned.durdencommatyler wrote:Outside of physically hurting another person maliciously, there are few things I understand as little as shitting on someone's joy. Especially for something as innocuous as a goddamn movie. Blech. It just feels so shitty to me.
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Yeah, pot smokers can't have valid opinions!!!tragabigzanda wrote:Team LV on this one, guys.
Kevin Smith is a once-promising, now very annoying, shithead. As he admitted in that quote, he often fawns over the stuff that he likes. Add that to the fact that he hasn't made a great movie since Chasing Amy (or possibly Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back), and is very "loud and proud" about his heavy potsmoking, and the very fact that he even gets a platform from which he can spout his opinion becomes completely grating.
There are way more talented people out there without the audience that Kevin Smith has, so yes: the fact that Kevin Smith A) finds deep joy in feeling like a kid again while watching a movie and B) has a broad audience of people who care about this, it pisses me off.
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Right, I'm just saying joy isn't an inherently good thing above reproach. I think nerd culture is and has been an intellectually destructive force, which is why I question the kind of joy Smith is expressing.durdencommatyler wrote:Which is why I put in that caveat about maliciously hurting someone. I'm obviously not talking about pedophilia.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think the source of one's joy can be a valid thing to question. Fucking kids brings pedophiles great joy, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be condemned.durdencommatyler wrote:Outside of physically hurting another person maliciously, there are few things I understand as little as shitting on someone's joy. Especially for something as innocuous as a goddamn movie. Blech. It just feels so shitty to me.
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That's not what he said, though. And that's not what this kind of nerd culture fawning is.stip wrote:it's not infantilization. It's like the feeling of falling in love for the first time, again. its special in part because it should be impossibleLoathedVermin72 wrote:Finding rhapsodic joy in feeling infantilized seems very dubious
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To be clear, I was defending the sentiment - I too find KS annoying these daystragabigzanda wrote:Team LV on this one, guys.
Kevin Smith is a once-promising, now very annoying, shithead. As he admitted in that quote, he often fawns over the stuff that he likes. Add that to the fact that he hasn't made a great movie since Chasing Amy (or possibly Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back), and is very "loud and proud" about his heavy potsmoking, and the very fact that he even gets a platform from which he can spout his opinion becomes completely grating.
There are way more talented people out there without the audience that Kevin Smith has, so yes: the fact that Kevin Smith A) finds deep joy in feeling like a kid again while watching a movie and B) has a broad audience of people who care about this, it pisses me off.
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