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Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 2:16 pm
by spike
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:brewers are red hot all of a sudden; unstoppable offensively. where has this been all year?
somewhere playing teams other than the phillies and reds?

i will add though, that as a cubs fan, i would love to see them playing good ball and beating up on the pirates and cards.
indeed, but those are still major league clubs, and the brewers numbers are just gaudy. 75 hits over a 5 game span, for example.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 2:41 pm
by Chris_H_2
spike wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:brewers are red hot all of a sudden; unstoppable offensively. where has this been all year?
somewhere playing teams other than the phillies and reds?

i will add though, that as a cubs fan, i would love to see them playing good ball and beating up on the pirates and cards.
indeed, but those are still major league clubs, and the brewers numbers are just gaudy. 75 hits over a 5 game span, for example.
so they'll obviously be traders at the deadline. who do you think's gone come aug. 1st?

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 3:22 pm
by spike
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:brewers are red hot all of a sudden; unstoppable offensively. where has this been all year?
somewhere playing teams other than the phillies and reds?

i will add though, that as a cubs fan, i would love to see them playing good ball and beating up on the pirates and cards.
indeed, but those are still major league clubs, and the brewers numbers are just gaudy. 75 hits over a 5 game span, for example.
so they'll obviously be traders at the deadline. who do you think's gone come aug. 1st?
carlos gomez, jean segura, and adam lind seem to be the leading candidates, though gomez left the game last night and is day to day. no one wants old ass aramis ramirez.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 3:42 pm
by @SkitchP
I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 4:00 pm
by numbers
We'll give you Porcello for Cespedes.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 4:07 pm
by @SkitchP
numbers wrote:We'll give you Porcello for Cespedes.

If you keep the contract, and we keep Alex Wilson, sure!

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 4:45 pm
by spike
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 5:06 pm
by @SkitchP
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 5:12 pm
by spike
@SkitchP wrote:
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.
skitch, it's all hands on deck to keep the yankees out of the world series this year, okay?

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 5:23 pm
by @SkitchP
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.
skitch, it's all hands on deck to keep the yankees out of the world series this year, okay?

Im loving the fact the AL playoff teams could be KC, Min, Hou and NYY

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:03 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
spike wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
spike wrote:brewers are red hot all of a sudden; unstoppable offensively. where has this been all year?
somewhere playing teams other than the phillies and reds?

i will add though, that as a cubs fan, i would love to see them playing good ball and beating up on the pirates and cards.
indeed, but those are still major league clubs, and the brewers numbers are just gaudy. 75 hits over a 5 game span, for example.
so they'll obviously be traders at the deadline. who do you think's gone come aug. 1st?
carlos gomez, jean segura, and adam lind seem to be the leading candidates, though gomez left the game last night and is day to day. no one wants old ass aramis ramirez.
I love how the Journal Sentinel was trying to write up Lohse as trade bate after his last "great" start... which was 6 innings 4 runs against the Phillies I believe? yeah, a playoff team wants that LOL

Linds is almost assured to be gone the way hes hitting, Segura and Gomez will be the interesting ones.
of course, Braun thinks theyre still in it LOL

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:12 pm
by spike
Stranger things, pal. Let's see how they do against the Braves and Dodgers before the break.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:16 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
spike wrote:Stranger things, pal. Let's see how they do against the Braves and Dodgers before the break.
yeah, I just dont see the offense keeping this up. Theyre just too streaky (see last season)
AND, Davis is due back next week which will put Parra back to a bench spot.
If I was running that team, id put Braun back in left, let Parra plya gold glove RF, and ship Davis off

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:19 pm
by spike
MadTIGERmaN wrote:
spike wrote:Stranger things, pal. Let's see how they do against the Braves and Dodgers before the break.
yeah, I just dont see the offense keeping this up. Theyre just too streaky (see last season)
AND, Davis is due back next week which will put Parra back to a bench spot.
If I was running that team, id put Braun back in left, let Parra plya gold glove RF, and ship Davis off
Definitely gotta keep Parra at the top of the lineup somehow. Fuck Khris Davis.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:47 pm
by philpritchard
@SkitchP wrote:
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.
The Tigers remind me a lot of where the Phillies were a few years ago.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:52 pm
by Chris_H_2
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
I don't take much pleasure in asking this because I so desperately wanted things to be different, but are you finally ready to admit that the Verlander contract extension was horrible?

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 7:52 pm
by Chris_H_2
philpritchard wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.
The Tigers remind me a lot of where the Phillies were a few years ago.
except their general manager isn't a bumbling halfwit.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 8:00 pm
by philpritchard
Chris_H_2 wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
spike wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
calm down, miggy will be back and they have enough guys to keep things afloat til then.

Honestly, I didn't think they were good enough WITH miggy. His injury just cemented it for me. Beyond Price and Sanchez they don't have the starting pitching to contend given that they don't have the bullpen to help cover it, and none of the farm system assets to supplement it sufficiently. Couple that with the extreme lack of power up and down the order (only 3 guys with more than 4 HR halfway through the season). Im plenty calm about it. Just being honest about where I think their talent level is.
The Tigers remind me a lot of where the Phillies were a few years ago.
except their general manager isn't a bumbling halfwit.
Well, yeah. I'm not suggesting they'll end up where the Phillies are now because hopefully they'll realize it when the window has closed.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 8:01 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
Chris_H_2 wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
I don't take much pleasure in asking this because I so desperately wanted things to be different, but are you finally ready to admit that the Verlander contract extension was horrible?
Always amazes me when a pitcher hits "the wall" how fast they fall. Halladay, Sabathia, now Verlander, could even toss Lincecum into that group.

And for all those people who harp on the decrease in fastball speeds, Greinkes is at the lowest in his career, and hes down right unhittable right now. Course, if he opts out of his contract at the end of the year, he'll sign a big deal somewhere and probably end up hitting the wall as well.

Re: MLB

Posted: Sun July 05, 2015 9:51 pm
by @SkitchP
Chris_H_2 wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I really want the Tigers to be sellers at the deadline. Not a full on fire sale, as keeping the guys that are going to be here next year (be it long term contracts or club control) is preferable,

But i imagine we should be able to get some decent returns for Price, Soria and Cespedes, and I think guys like Simon and Avila could have some value to contending teams.
I don't take much pleasure in asking this because I so desperately wanted things to be different, but are you finally ready to admit that the Verlander contract extension was horrible?

I have some concerns