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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:17 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
I think the feeling of owing a deep, unabashed musical debt to his heroes *is* Ed being his unique self; I've always felt he was more interested in continuing musical traditions than innovating new ones
Of course...he's always been a torch bearer, in that way...I guess, at some point, the influences just became so much more overt, on a per song basis, instead of blending and reinterpreting them in unique ways. It's dreadfully boring, at this point.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:18 pm
by DDWJMUVW
Kyle Meredith interviewed Stone and it will be available on 4/17. Here is the detailed description:

I guess Trag will go ahead and close up shop given that last sentence.

Pearl Jam’s Stone Gossard on Riffs, Abandonment, & The Cure’s Influence on Dark Matter

Pearl Jam’s Stone Gossard catches up with Kyle Meredith to talk about the band’s latest album, Dark Matter. The guitarist gives us the inside on the joy and abandonment while making the LP with producer Andrew Watt, how it came together so much quicker than Gigaton, and working in a way they did in the early days of the group. On the guitar side, Gossard tells us how he finds space in a song with the addition of Watt and Josh Klinghoffer in the mix, why we never see him playing back-to-back on stage with Mike McCready, and how his focus is completely different than the lead guitarist. Interestingly, Stone also reveals that The Cure were a very big influence on the album, as well as U2. In fact, with U2 in mind, Gossard tells us why he doesn’t want Pearl Jam to play The Sphere, and then gives his thoughts on The Darkness’ Justin Hawkins deconstruction of “Dark Matter,” and, maybe most excitingly, says that he’d love to PJ to start on a follow up with Watt right away.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
I think the feeling of owing a deep, unabashed musical debt to his heroes *is* Ed being his unique self; I've always felt he was more interested in continuing musical traditions than innovating new ones
Of course...he's always been a torch bearer, in that way...I guess, at some point, the influences just became so much more overt, on a per song basis, instead of blending and reinterpreting them in unique ways. It's dreadfully boring, at this point.
yeah you're right

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:26 pm
by Mike
how he finds space in a song with the addition of Watt and Josh Klinghoffer in the mix
Image

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:29 pm
by Mike
Spenno will love this sentence

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:34 pm
by RockPusher
You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:51 pm
by Val
Personally I'm a purée-ist.
I love purée.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:54 pm
by RockPusher
My ranking of their influences:

Pink Floyd
The Who
Uncle Neil
Tom Petty
Bruce
The Ramones
Various punk bands I mostly haven't listened to

If we are to add The Cure and U2, based on recent Stonage, then The Cure would be above Bruce and U2 would slot right below him, although era is important in that case.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:55 pm
by guitar_davey
lecherouslittlestump wrote:I prefer a flan
lecherouslittlestump wrote:I sort of fused Tom Petty with MC Hammer shit
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:57 pm
by Mike
RockPusher wrote:You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.
I will enjoy it and complain at the same time

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 3:58 pm
by RockPusher
Mike wrote:
RockPusher wrote:You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.
I will enjoy it and complain at the same time
This is the way

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:02 pm
by guitar_davey
RockPusher wrote:My ranking of their influences:

Pink Floyd
The Who
Uncle Neil
Tom Petty
Bruce
The Ramones
Various punk bands I mostly haven't listened to

If we are to add The Cure and U2, based on recent Stonage, then The Cure would be above Bruce and U2 would slot right below him, although era is important in that case.
I'd suggest that some combination of Led Zeppelin/Aerosmith/Kiss belongs right at the top of that list.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:02 pm
by guitar_davey
RockPusher wrote:My ranking of their influences:

Pink Floyd
The Who
Uncle Neil
Tom Petty
Bruce
The Ramones
Various punk bands I mostly haven't listened to

If we are to add The Cure and U2, based on recent Stonage, then The Cure would be above Bruce and U2 would slot right below him, although era is important in that case.
I'd suggest that some combination of Led Zeppelin/Aerosmith/Kiss belongs right at the top of that list.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:02 pm
by Val
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:02 pm
by RockPusher
guitar_davey wrote:
RockPusher wrote:My ranking of their influences:

Pink Floyd
The Who
Uncle Neil
Tom Petty
Bruce
The Ramones
Various punk bands I mostly haven't listened to

If we are to add The Cure and U2, based on recent Stonage, then The Cure would be above Bruce and U2 would slot right below him, although era is important in that case.
I'd suggest that some combination of Led Zeppelin/Aerosmith/Kiss belongs right at the top of that list.
I'll allow it, though era again matters with Aerosmith

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:04 pm
by guitar_davey
RockPusher wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
RockPusher wrote:My ranking of their influences:

Pink Floyd
The Who
Uncle Neil
Tom Petty
Bruce
The Ramones
Various punk bands I mostly haven't listened to

If we are to add The Cure and U2, based on recent Stonage, then The Cure would be above Bruce and U2 would slot right below him, although era is important in that case.
I'd suggest that some combination of Led Zeppelin/Aerosmith/Kiss belongs right at the top of that list.
I'll allow it, though era again matters with Aerosmith
Toys/Rocks

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:06 pm
by oneway23
Sounds like that Stone interview just might be a bit longer than the Matt Pinfield one LOL

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:13 pm
by Mike
A weird mix between Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Neil Young and Bruce

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
I've been saying for a long time (since Backspacer actually) that if they want to go "pop" with a darker edge, they really need to consciously look at The Cure; I didn't really hear that until Earthling ("The Dark") but I look forward to hearing more of it

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 05, 2024 4:18 pm
by RockPusher
Mike wrote:A weird mix between Led Zeppelin, Fugazi, Neil Young and Bruce
I don't know where to put Fugazi. Haven't heard enough of them, and mostly listened to them like 30 years ago.