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cutuphalfdead wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:It's funny because had Robert not rebelled violently Rhaegar was prepared to rebel diplomatically and call a Great Council.

Yeah but that's not put forth in the series, or if it has, ive completely missed it over the last 4 years of watching all seasons

There was flashback last season (?) to Rhaegar talking to Jaime before he rides out to battle Robert and says "don't worry, we're changing things around here when I'm done dealing with this" or something like that.

So from one line of dialogue I'm supposed to infer that rhaegar is going to start a round table of truth and justice? Pfffft

He basically was saying I'm going to get rid of this madman who keeps burning people alive.

So? My question is still open.

Nobody is going to be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of this. And the idea that anyone has a right to rule because of some birthright is silly. This isn't the story of daenerys taking back what is hers. It was never hers to take.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:It's funny because had Robert not rebelled violently Rhaegar was prepared to rebel diplomatically and call a Great Council.

Yeah but that's not put forth in the series, or if it has, ive completely missed it over the last 4 years of watching all seasons

There was flashback last season (?) to Rhaegar talking to Jaime before he rides out to battle Robert and says "don't worry, we're changing things around here when I'm done dealing with this" or something like that.

So from one line of dialogue I'm supposed to infer that rhaegar is going to start a round table of truth and justice? Pfffft

He basically was saying I'm going to get rid of this madman who keeps burning people alive.

Or at least, it's one likely inference one could make about what he said.

BurtReynolds wrote:Nobody is going to be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of this. And the idea that anyone has a right to rule because of some birthright is silly. This isn't the story of daenerys taking back what is hers. It was never hers to take.

I do not disagree. Sorry, Burt.

BurtReynolds wrote:Nobody is going to be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of this. And the idea that anyone has a right to rule because of some birthright is silly. This isn't the story of daenerys taking back what is hers. It was never hers to take.

that would be a great direction for this to take. I've never felt particularly sympathetic to Dany's claim.

I've long said that IF one person ends up on that throne that I hope it's Dany. BUT I truly believe the series ends with no one on the throne, with the throne itself being abolished.

Those are all direct quotes from Dany. She is invading a continent with foreign troops for some apparent birth right to the throne, that in reality she doesn't even have, and of course it was stolen by her family through war, destruction and murder in the first place. How is that a good person? A sane person?

Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

stip wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Nobody is going to be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of this. And the idea that anyone has a right to rule because of some birthright is silly. This isn't the story of daenerys taking back what is hers. It was never hers to take.

that would be a great direction for this to take. I've never felt particularly sympathetic to Dany's claim.

It's very unlikely that any society will live with anarchy. Pretty much every human society has ended up with a leader. The chair is not important, the position is. They could split into smaller regions again of course.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

Any concept really. If not Theon might as well be king.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

My point exactly

Flashback to Rhaegar? Huh? I'm pretty sure Rhaegar wasn't shown until now.

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

My point exactly

But still wrong.

I want this show to be more like Star Wars

This is why I think Gendry will end up as King, should they survive the war with the White Walkers.

Anders wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

My point exactly

But still wrong.

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which two opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.

Anders wrote:

stip wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Nobody is going to be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of this. And the idea that anyone has a right to rule because of some birthright is silly. This isn't the story of daenerys taking back what is hers. It was never hers to take.

that would be a great direction for this to take. I've never felt particularly sympathetic to Dany's claim.

It's very unlikely that any society will live with anarchy. Pretty much every human society has ended up with a leader. The chair is not important, the position is. They could split into smaller regions again of course.

Jon is practically democratically elected, at least by medieval standards, by both The Watch and The North. So was Robb.

Anders wrote:

malice wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Because you're applying modern concepts of rational behavior when they don't apply.

My point exactly

But still wrong.

No, it's not. This isnt a historical dramatization of humanity and tge rise and fall of civilizations, it's a fantasy based world that exists in a time period that see a crossbow as the coolest most advanced weapon out there.

European history isnt terribly civilized btw, you fuckerz squabbled over thrones in just as barbaric and uncivil ways as the show, just minus the dragons etc. But ok you are the ultimate authority, im a lowly slob who holds not validity in my statements. Naturally.

John Snow is the only man worthy of such a throne. Mainly because the internet told me im john snow. Thanks facebook quizzes

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I want this show to be more like Star Wars

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