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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:20 pm
by EJ
harmless wrote:I think that to base anything on drums by themselves, you first have to establish a groove that people can get behind. You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track or people will just be put off right away.
IMVHO.
What would your advice be for a
Bassgasm album?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:22 pm
by wilkins
EJ wrote:harmless wrote:I think that to base anything on drums by themselves, you first have to establish a groove that people can get behind. You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track or people will just be put off right away.
IMVHO.
What would your advice be for a
Bassgasm album?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znd0tIKjsPU
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:35 pm
by harmless
EJ wrote:harmless wrote:I think that to base anything on drums by themselves, you first have to establish a groove that people can get behind. You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track or people will just be put off right away.
IMVHO.
What would your advice be for a
Bassgasm album?
I don't play bass so I wouldn't have any to give.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:39 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
EJ wrote:harmless wrote:I think that to base anything on drums by themselves, you first have to establish a groove that people can get behind. You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track or people will just be put off right away.
IMVHO.
What would your advice be for a
Bassgasm album?
make it sound good
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:39 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track
Squint though he might, Keith Moon never managed to read this post.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:44 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
EJ wrote:harmless wrote:I think that to base anything on drums by themselves, you first have to establish a groove that people can get behind. You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track or people will just be put off right away.
IMVHO.
What would your advice be for a
Bassgasm album?
I read this as the type of fish-gasm not the type of instrument-gasm.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 5:45 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track
Squint though he might, Keith Moon never managed to read this post.
I'm not a Keith Moon fan really. I much prefer John Bonham.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:02 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track
Squint though he might, Keith Moon never managed to read this post.
I'm not a Keith Moon fan really. I much prefer John Bonham.
That's like saying "I don't drink Laphroaig, on account of I'm a Macallan fan."
By which I mean why aren't you drunk yet
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:03 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:You can stampede like wildebeest and go crazy if you want, but not for the first two minutes of the track
Squint though he might, Keith Moon never managed to read this post.
I'm not a Keith Moon fan really. I much prefer John Bonham.
That's like saying "I don't drink Laphroaig, on account of I'm a Macallan fan."
By which I mean why aren't you drunk yet
You don't think these are the posts of a guy who drinks?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:10 pm
by McParadigm
The day my wife excitedly told me that she'd ordered a contraption known as the "
ball winder" was the day I learned to stop assuming, my man.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:17 pm
by harmless
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:51 pm
by darthvedder81
Someone asked earlier if I was excited about S/T or Backspacer leading up to their release (unlike "Lightning Bolt" which the music of so far does nothing for me). The answer is yes (BS less so but I ended up liking it a lot anyway).
I liked WWS a lot but after hearing "Severed Hand" on SNL I was really jazzed for the Avocado.
Oh and I don't agree the band wasn't fighting on Yield. They were fighting. They were fighting against fighting...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 6:57 pm
by harmless
darthvedder81 wrote:Someone asked earlier if I was excited about S/T or Backspacer leading up to their release (unlike "Lightning Bolt" which the music of so far does nothing for me). The answer is yes (BS less so but I ended up liking it a lot anyway).
I liked WWS a lot but after hearing "Severed Hand" on SNL I was really jazzed for the Avocado.
Oh and I don't agree the band wasn't fighting on Yield. They were fighting. They were fighting against fighting...

And on Backspacer they were 'fighting to get it back again'. It's not that they're not fighting, it's just that you think some opponents are more interesting to watch than others. Maybe on Backspacer they were fighting against darkness, and certain hardcore fans who were going to accuse them of selling out.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 7:21 pm
by WaitingForBluey
EJ wrote:What would your advice be for a Bassgasm album?
Girls Against Boys "Cruise Yourself" and Ned's Atomic Dustbin "God Fodder" are great albums from rare bands that used 2 bass players and only 1 guitar player.
Or you could just go with anything Les Claypool has done... especially Primus "Sailing the Seas of Cheese"
As a bass player myself, those 3 albums are bassalicious

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 7:23 pm
by Jorge
bluestate wrote:Girls Against Boys "Cruise Yourself"
I like this album a lot, but I hadn't thought of it in years.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 7:28 pm
by Mine
harmless wrote:I'm a little frustrated that Matt's snare always sounds very nice on his drumming promo vids, but not in the actual PJ songs.
The issue could be the mix rather then the tone itself.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 7:49 pm
by Lament
bluestate wrote:EJ wrote:What would your advice be for a Bassgasm album?
Girls Against Boys "Cruise Yourself" and Ned's Atomic Dustbin "God Fodder" are great albums from rare bands that used 2 bass players and only 1 guitar player.
Or you could just go with anything Les Claypool has done... especially Primus "Sailing the Seas of Cheese"
As a bass player myself, those 3 albums are bassalicious

Peter Hook, Andy Rourke, and Mani had their whole "Freebass" thing some years ago, where they tried to have a three bassist band.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 7:57 pm
by Coach
darthvedder81 wrote:Someone asked earlier if I was excited about S/T or Backspacer leading up to their release (unlike "Lightning Bolt" which the music of so far does nothing for me). The answer is yes (BS less so but I ended up liking it a lot anyway).
I liked WWS a lot but after hearing "Severed Hand" on SNL I was really jazzed for the Avocado.
Oh and I don't agree the band wasn't fighting on Yield. They were fighting. They were fighting against fighting...
I was/am a big fan of "Severed Hand."
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 8:49 pm
by digster
Release_Me wrote:That fact that so many of us here are debating the countdown clock and when we will get some info about the album, etc. etc. says to me that their marketing strategy pretty much worked.
I doubt many, if any of their marketing strategies are aimed at us. They know how rabid their hardcore fanbase is and that we'll probably buy it first week no matter what.
I haven't really seen any talk of this album outside of here, but that's not particularly surprising. It's still a ways off, and PJ albums aren't really these big releases anymore.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon August 19, 2013 8:49 pm
by Will
Love that MC MYM video. I guess I never realized he tuned his snare that high.
