Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yup and it's no coincidence that many of those are favorites of mine. All or None is as good as music gets in my opinion.

DDWJMUVW wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:I've been saying for a long time (since Backspacer actually) that if they want to go "pop" with a darker edge, they really need to consciously look at The Cure; I didn't really hear that until Earthling ("The Dark") but I look forward to hearing more of it

While I think The Dark is a great track, I really hope to not hear anything quite that poppy and glossy on this album (yeah, I know something special will prob be just that).

Apparently there are some Cure vibes in both Wreckage and Won't Tell. Time WILL tell whether there is balance and it sounds good.

The clip of won't tell on metal door sesh has me really excited (as does React, Respond).

it's gonna be glossy, it's Watt, best come to terms with that; but a lot of the best The Cure is glossy and poppy, which is why it might work (Love Cats, Friday I'm in Love, Pictures of You, and on)

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yellow Moon. Some people hate it, but I think it's one of the couple of great tunes on LB.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Mike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

RockPusher wrote:You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.

Show me a PJ purist, and I'll show you an indifferent fanboy

I wonder if people would be as indifferent if there were 3-4 songs were an outsider sang half the song?

Oh I'm sure they'd have NO problem with this!

I think hard-won / resigned acceptance is a bit different to indifference

Ms Harmless wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Mike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

RockPusher wrote:You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.

Show me a PJ purist, and I'll show you an indifferent fanboy

I wonder if people would be as indifferent if there were 3-4 songs were an outsider sang half the song?

Oh I'm sure they'd have NO problem with this!

I think hard-won / resigned acceptance is a bit different to indifference

How much difference does it make?

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yellow Moon. Some people hate it, but I think it's one of the couple of great tunes on LB.

yeah, forgot about that one

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yellow Moon. Some people hate it, but I think it's one of the couple of great tunes on LB.

Yellow Moon produced by Josh Evans would have been something I could connect with a lot more, I imagine. Retrograde is kind of in the same ballpark, and unlike many here, I eat it up every time I hear it.

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yellow Moon. Some people hate it, but I think it's one of the couple of great tunes on LB.

Great bridge in Yellow.

YM, Pendulum, MFS and to some extent Getaway. Rest of the album to me = I could never hear again and be just fine.

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Mike wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

RockPusher wrote:You guys are such purists. Go listen to your Purile Jam. I’ll be enjoying the new album when it comes out lol.

Show me a PJ purist, and I'll show you an indifferent fanboy

I wonder if people would be as indifferent if there were 3-4 songs were an outsider sang half the song?

Oh I'm sure they'd have NO problem with this!

I think hard-won / resigned acceptance is a bit different to indifference

How much difference does it make?

none, we can enjoy (or not enjoy) whatever we want for whatever reason if it's not hurting anyone

Mike wrote:Wait, I forgot the influence that I love almost as much as Pearl Jam: R.E.M.!

me too! they are a very close second

I've never really listened to The Cure except for a few of the more popular songs. Is there a good place to start?

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

betterman and elderly woman as neil young influenced? Nothingman and Udone? Explain yourself!

RockPusher wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

Yellow Moon. Some people hate it, but I think it's one of the couple of great tunes on LB.

Yellow Moon produced by Josh Evans would have been something I could connect with a lot more, I imagine. Retrograde is kind of in the same ballpark, and unlike many here, I eat it up every time I hear it.

oh, yeah that too! I always think Retrograde is 70s folk rock ballad done right so I'm not sure why I didn't add it to Neil Youngish songs

Pendulum is a good shout too

stip wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:Neil Young is by far my favourite "obvious" PJ influence in terms of songs

Smile, Betterman, Off He Goes, I Got Shit, Long Road, Footsteps, All or None, Hail Hail, Red Mosquito, 1/2 Full, Elderly Woman, Nothingman, U, Down, Undone, Present Tense, have I missed any?

all gold

betterman and elderly woman as neil young influenced? Nothingman and Udone? Explain yourself!

I hear a little Betterman in the driving country twang rock of ROTFW

Nothingman in any number of Neil's swingy mournful folk ballads

Undone doesn't sound like any particular Neil song off the top of my head, but it's not dissimilar to some Crazy Horse

oftheearth wrote:I've never really listened to The Cure except for a few of the more popular songs. Is there a good place to start?

Depends on your taste. If you want the full Cure experience, go with good headphones, loud volume, and Disintegration front to back. If you want to hear how spacy and atmospheric they can sound while still playing in the pop playground, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me could be fun. FWIW, my favorite pop song by them is "High" which is from Wish. But Disintegration will tell you if you're a Cure fan. You might be in head over heels by the end of it

p.s. - their early stuff is really post-punk. If you haven't heard "Fire in Cairo" you should check it out.

oftheearth wrote:I've never really listened to The Cure except for a few of the more popular songs. Is there a good place to start?

Greatest Hits

Wish, Disintegration, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Pornography

oftheearth wrote:I've never really listened to The Cure except for a few of the more popular songs. Is there a good place to start?

She Sells Sanctuary is the only good thing they ever did

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

oftheearth wrote:I've never really listened to The Cure except for a few of the more popular songs. Is there a good place to start?

She Sells Sanctuary is the only good thing they ever did

Yeahno

The Cure / The Cult Potato / Tomato