The Environment Thread

Engage in discussions about news, politics, etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Green Habit »

Gonna shake up this regularly pessimistic thread with a bit of technoptimistic ambition:

https://www.slowboring.com/p/energy-abundance

This is why I obnoxiously post the "¿Por qué no los dos?" meme every time there's an argument about nuclear vs. solar/wind/geothermal/etc. We need as much clean electricity as we can build to cascade those gains toward other clean energy uses.
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by simple schoolboy »

Green Habit wrote:Gonna shake up this regularly pessimistic thread with a bit of technoptimistic ambition:

https://www.slowboring.com/p/energy-abundance

This is why I obnoxiously post the "¿Por qué no los dos?" meme every time there's an argument about nuclear vs. solar/wind/geothermal/etc. We need as much clean electricity as we can build to cascade those gains toward other clean energy uses.
Local power purchasing groups are tending to blackball nuclear, so there's not much of a market for it. That, plus ALARA means it can't ever be allowed to be competitive on a cost basis.

We aren't building any more nuclear, and we are nowhere near grid level storage of any significant amount. Renewables, "temporary" natural gas plants, and seasonal blackouts are the forseeable future.
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Bi_3 »

simple schoolboy wrote:Renewables, "temporary" natural gas plants, and seasonal blackouts are the forseeable future.

Image
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by simple schoolboy »

I tried to keep it optimistic by suggesting blackouts will mostly be weather related.
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Bi_3 »

"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
4/5
See you in another life, brother
Posts: 6985
Joined: Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by 4/5 »

Perhaps a tad hyperbolic.
"I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle

User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
96583UP
The Master
Posts: 29574
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by 96583UP »

Thanks, Calgary!
All posts by this account, even those referencing real things, are entirely fictional and are for entertainment purposes only; i.e. very low-quality entertainment. These may contain coarse language and due to their content should not be viewed by anyone
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Bi_3 »

I was unaware, or at least don't remember it, but apparently a few companies are getting ready to bring solid-state lithium batteries to market next year. These are game-changers if they can scale delivery.
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
McParadigm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 22393
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by McParadigm »

Crucial Antarctic ice shelf could fail within five years, scientists say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ntarctica/
Scientists have discovered a series of worrying weaknesses in the ice shelf holding back one of Antarctica’s most dangerous glaciers, suggesting that this important buttress against sea level rise could shatter within the next three to five years.

Until recently, the ice shelf was seen as the most stable part of Thwaites Glacier, a Florida-sized frozen expanse that already contributes about 4 percent of annual global sea level rise. Because of this brace, the eastern portion of Thwaites flowed more slowly than the rest of the notorious “doomsday glacier.”

But new data show that the warming ocean is eroding the eastern ice shelf from below. Satellite images taken as recently as last month and presented Monday at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union show several large, diagonal cracks extending across the floating ice wedge.

These weak spots are like cracks in a windshield, said Oregon State University glaciologist Erin Pettit. One more blow and they could spiderweb across the entire ice shelf surface.
“This eastern ice shelf is likely to shatter into hundreds of icebergs,” she said. “Suddenly the whole thing would collapse.”

The failure of the shelf would not immediately accelerate global sea level rise. The shelf already floats on the ocean surface, taking up the same amount of space whether it is solid or liquid.

But when the shelf fails, the eastern third of Thwaites Glacier will triple in speed, spitting formerly landlocked ice into the sea. Total collapse of Thwaites could result in several feet of sea level rise, scientists say, endangering millions of people in coastal areas.
(patriotic choking noises)
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 3:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Mickey
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9715
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Location: Tristes Tropiques

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Mickey »

McParadigm wrote:Crucial Antarctic ice shelf could fail within five years, scientists say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ntarctica/
Scientists have discovered a series of worrying weaknesses in the ice shelf holding back one of Antarctica’s most dangerous glaciers, suggesting that this important buttress against sea level rise could shatter within the next three to five years.

Until recently, the ice shelf was seen as the most stable part of Thwaites Glacier, a Florida-sized frozen expanse that already contributes about 4 percent of annual global sea level rise. Because of this brace, the eastern portion of Thwaites flowed more slowly than the rest of the notorious “doomsday glacier.”

But new data show that the warming ocean is eroding the eastern ice shelf from below. Satellite images taken as recently as last month and presented Monday at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union show several large, diagonal cracks extending across the floating ice wedge.

These weak spots are like cracks in a windshield, said Oregon State University glaciologist Erin Pettit. One more blow and they could spiderweb across the entire ice shelf surface.
“This eastern ice shelf is likely to shatter into hundreds of icebergs,” she said. “Suddenly the whole thing would collapse.”

The failure of the shelf would not immediately accelerate global sea level rise. The shelf already floats on the ocean surface, taking up the same amount of space whether it is solid or liquid.

But when the shelf fails, the eastern third of Thwaites Glacier will triple in speed, spitting formerly landlocked ice into the sea. Total collapse of Thwaites could result in several feet of sea level rise, scientists say, endangering millions of people in coastal areas.
Is that....is that good?
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
User avatar
McParadigm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 22393
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by McParadigm »

The speed of this shit
(patriotic choking noises)
doug rr
The Master
Posts: 27320
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:45 pm
Location: I'm now Canadian..go broncos

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by doug rr »

thats where i grew up, team...my mom was evacuated yesterday..she's fine as is the house..have a couple acquaintances that lost homes...still waiting on a lot more info
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
Post Reply